Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

I'm borrowing from Smootsmack:

Reasons for Peyton Manning to want to come here

-He respects Shanahan and knows Shanahan is an established, Super Bowl winning head coach

-Redskins have the cap flexibility to be active in free agency and the draft picks to be active in the draft

-He (supposedly) prefer the East Coast

-He enjoys the spotlight

-He's very tight with an executive in the organization

That last point is an interesting one which I did not know. Thanks.

To the draft point, do you think Peyton would be alright with us drafting a QB in the first or second round? I have no doubt he is a professional but drafting a QB that high would say we don't expect you to start in a year or two. IMO Peyton wants the starting nod for another three to four years.

I'd keep the picks and sign Manning.

I think this is what's going to happen

That last point is an interesting one which I did not know. Thanks.

To the draft point, do you think Peyton would be alright with us drafting a QB in the first or second round? I have no doubt he is a professional but drafting a QB that high would say we don't expect you to start in a year or two. IMO Peyton wants the starting nod for another three to four years.

If it's someone like Tannehill who is a bit of a project and would benefit from sitting for a few years, I don't think he would have a problem with it.

1. There is no recent trade nor example from the value chart that makes your trade likely.

Eli Manning's cost to the Giants - 2004 1st, 2004 3rd, 2005 1st, 2005 5th...to move up from #4 to #1 with a difference of 1200 points. (forced trade)

Michael Vick's cost to the Falcons - 2001 1st round, 2001 3rd rounder, 2002 3rd rounder and Tim Dwight. (Chargers failed to reach contract with Vick so traded)....to move from #5 to #1 with a difference of 1,000 points.


Ryan Leaf's cost to the Chargers- 1998 1st rounder, 1998 2nd rounder, 1999 1st rounder, Eric Metcalf, Patrick Sapp....to move up from #3 to #2 with a difference of 400 points.

Jon Gruden traded to the Tampa Bay Bucs for 2 first rounders.


Two of those trades came from unusual circumstances and both by the same team. In fact, the only team that seems to trade top 5 picks is the Chargers. One was a forced trade, the other came about because they couldn't reach a deal with Vick prior to the draft. Both of those circumstances lowered the value of the pick. That and the fact that huge contracts came with rookies back then. Now that rookie contracts are affordable, those high picks mean even more now.


So with a 1,000 point difference between the #2 and #6, you have to come up with the points to make up for that.

1st- 1600 points
2nd - 520 points
3rd - 240 points
4th- 93 points
5th- 39 points
6th- 25 points
7th- 12.2 points



Even if you added all these picks you would only come up with 929.2 points. Now granted, you wouldn't want to go all Ditka and give up your total draft so you would have to bargain to keep some of this years draft while sacrificing some of next years picks.

1st, 2nd, 4th = 2,213 points You would have to include next years #1 to make up that extra 400 points and possible a later rounder. Remember now, next years picks doesn't have the value that they do in the present.

1st, 3rd,4th= 1,933 points. Would cost you next years #1 and another mid round pick to make up.


I didn't just pull that scenario from fantasy land.

If it's someone like Tannehill who is a bit of a project and would benefit from sitting for a few years, I don't think he would have a problem with it.


I think this is a more feasible outcome...

If it takes to much to move up then get FA QB (Maybe Manning but does not have to) and get a young thrower to develop in 2-3 year...

So we go from the mess at QB to a outlook in the future of good QB play

Also it keeps the focus on the draft while getting young and most importantly Better

My Take... Slow and steady

There are at least options...

I'm sure it has been said somewhere in the thousands of quarterback posts, but what would it take to add Manning? Are we talking picks or straight cash?

Assuming he would even want to be here...

I'm sure it has been said somewhere in the thousands of quarterback posts, but what would it take to add Manning? Are we talking picks or straight cash?

Assuming he would even want to be here...

Manning wouldn't cost any draft picks.

If it's someone like Tannehill who is a bit of a project and would benefit from sitting for a few years, I don't think he would have a problem with it.

I can definitely get behind Manning/Tannehill. Tannehill is projected by many as a potential franchise QB if given time and Shanny is rumored to like him. Problem with this scenario is getting him will not be easy. He's a reach at #6 and he will be gone by the time our 2nd pick comes up. And i am not okay with picking whatever other QB happens to be available in the 2nd round.

I can definitely get behind Manning/Tannehill. Tannehill is projected by many as a potential franchise QB if given time and Shanny is rumored to like him. Problem with this scenario is getting him will not be easy. He's a reach at #6 and he will be gone by the time our 2nd pick comes up. And i am not okay with picking whatever other QB happens to be available in the 2nd round.

On the bright side the cost to move up in the 2nd round or the end of the first is nothing compared to the cost of moving from the 6th pick to the first or second overall.

I can definitely get behind Manning/Tannehill. Tannehill is projected by many as a potential franchise QB if given time and Shanny is rumored to like him. Problem with this scenario is getting him will not be easy. He's a reach at #6 and he will be gone by the time our 2nd pick comes up. And i am not okay with picking whatever other QB happens to be available in the 2nd round.

If we traded down from #6 to the 12-15 range, we likely could still get Tannehill and have extra picks to boot.

Manning + Tannehill + extra picks = WIN