Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice


diehard
02-18-2012, 11:13 PM
Here's what puzzles me: Some people here don't want to trade next years 1st to get RGIII but would be fine with BPA and trade back into the 1st round to get Tannehill. What do you think we'd be giving up to get back into the first rd? Heinz ketchup?

It's all hypothetical. No one knows how high Tannehill will go. If the estimations are correct and he's valued as a mid-first round pick, then it would cost relatively less to pull off that trade than one at the top of the draft.

redskins5044
02-18-2012, 11:13 PM
I just FA and the draft to hurry up and get here.

30gut
02-18-2012, 11:14 PM
Hoyer wasn't drafted 30gut.
Quite right, I was writing that post from memory so thank you for the correction, Hoyer was not drafted he was signed as an UDFA.
But, do see the larger point of the post?

diehardskin2982
02-18-2012, 11:17 PM
Wow. They drafted someone to take his place when he leaves? Heavens, that must mean he's terrible.


So they drafted Mallett to replace Hoyer. They knew that they're going to trade Hoyer last year? There are so many teams wanting Hoyer that they knew that they could get a Eagle type deal in 2012? Im sorry I think we are the only site who event mentiones this guy as an option.

I also just don't think that Shannahan is going to stake his legacy and his job on an unproven player that he saw visiting Patriots camp for three days. If he is picking an unproven guy it's going to be someone he can draft and mold from day one. The stakes are too high... local media has roasted Shanny for the Grossman, Beck, McNabb fiasco. I just don't see it.

skinsfaninok
02-18-2012, 11:18 PM
So they drafted Mallett to replace Hoyer. They knew that they're going to trade Hoyer last year? There are so many teams wanting Hoyer that they knew that they could get a Eagle type deal in 2012? Im sorry I think we are the only site who event mentiones this guy as an option.

I also just don't think that Shannahan is going to stake his legacy and his job on an unproven player that he saw visiting Patriots camp for three days. If he is picking an unproven guy it's going to be someone he can draft and mold from day one. The stakes are too high... local media has roasted Shanny for the Grossman, Beck, McNabb fiasco. I just don't see it.

thank u.. Lets please end the Hoyer talk I'd rather have Sanchez

EARTHQUAKE2689
02-18-2012, 11:20 PM
I definitely see where your coming from. I'm just tired of losing 21 years since our last SB appearance. I was 2. Couldn't get Bradford, McNabb failed, Locker was stolen. Now is the time to risk it for your QB. I still blame Matt Barkley though.

skinsfaninok
02-18-2012, 11:22 PM
I definitely see where your coming from. I'm just tired of losing 21 years since our last SB appearance. I was 2. Couldn't get Bradford, McNabb failed, Locker was stolen. Now is the time to risk it for your QB. I still blame Matt Barkley though.


We are in the same boat ALWAYS LOSERS

biffle
02-18-2012, 11:25 PM
So they drafted Mallett to replace Hoyer. They knew that they're going to trade Hoyer last year? There are so many teams wanting Hoyer that they knew that they could get a Eagle type deal in 2012? Im sorry I think we are the only site who event mentiones this guy as an option.

I also just don't think that Shannahan is going to stake his legacy and his job on an unproven player that he saw visiting Patriots camp for three days. If he is picking an unproven guy it's going to be someone he can draft and mold from day one. The stakes are too high... local media has roasted Shanny for the Grossman, Beck, McNabb fiasco. I just don't see it.

This is far from the only site that mentions him. He's come up multiple times for starters. And yes, they knew he would be an RFA this year and an UFA next. Not that any of that matters, they draft for value with all their picks and saw good value in Mallet.

They kept him as the only back-up for Tom Brady for two years, Hoyer's first two years in the league. Heading into his third year they drafted another QB to be the third stringer. Now they are debating whether to put a 1st or 2nd round tender on Hoyer as an RFA. If you look at that situation and see some kind of indictment of Hoyer's abilites from the Patriots, I would suggest you need to have your brainwaves reset somehow.

30gut
02-18-2012, 11:32 PM
I definitely see where your coming from. I'm just tired of losing 21 years since our last SB appearance. I was 2. Couldn't get Bradford, McNabb failed, Locker was stolen. Now is the time to risk it for your QB. I still blame Matt Barkley though.I hear yah bro.
We all want a 'franchise' QB but there are many ways to get one.
But no matter how we get the QB we have to be able to support their development until they can support the team.
And I think where this team has failed over and over again is not having the right pieces in place to support a young potential 'franchise' QB.
We have to admit that we've been a bad team/franchise for quite some time.
And imo a bad franchise cannot produce a 'franchise' QB.
However I think the proper peices are in place now.
That's why I wish that we would have drafted our QB of the future last year.
And its why I root against almost every QB that was drafted after Locker because everyone of those QBs could have been our QB.
Blaine Gabbert's rookie struggles have saved this franchise from having to answer some tough questions.
I just hope we fix our QB situation before Blaine turns the corner.

diehardskin2982
02-18-2012, 11:35 PM
They kept him as the only back-up for Tom Brady for two years, Hoyer's first two years in the league. Heading into his third year they drafted another QB to be the third stringer. Now they are debating whether to put a 1st or 2nd round tender on Hoyer as an RFA. If you look at that situation and see some kind of indictment of Hoyer's abilites from the Patriots, I would suggest you need to have your brainwaves reset somehow.

LOL...OK
Patriots are not the end all- be all to evaluating talent. If I remember correctly they LOST the Superbowl and haven't one a Superbowl since the whose spy gate thing.

I think MS and BA have made the necessary steps to stregthen/ empower our scouting department. I know they will make the right decision in regards to the roster. I will be very suprised is Hoyer is that decision.

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