Around the NFL - Offseason thread

Well, yeah, you might lose the bonus money. However, wasn't there a case showing that bonus money can be reclaimed if the player violates NFL rules?

Haven't seen a case yet that require a player to give by signing money unless they retired.




Also.

Report: Davis to get tagged - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins (http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/02/report-davis-to-get-tagged.html)

I was hoping this would become the "Around the NFL - Offseason Thread (not including more Peyton Manning talk). I was wrong.

Exactly. Let's keep the PM stuff out of here....lol

Back to Davis. Can someone breakdown the different tags a team can use? Like, which type of tag are the Skins using on Davis?

About Davis' bonus money: under the old CBA teams could recover signing bonus money, just not roster bonus money. So if we signed Davis to a long-term deal and then he went "strike three," as long as the bonus was a signing bonus, we could recover that money.

I don't know if the rules are different under the new CBA but given the Vick fiasco it seems difficult to believe that the owners would not have tightened, rather than loosened, the rules on this count.

Federal judge rules Vick can keep more than $16 million in bonus money - NFL - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3229782)

Eagle jabber.

Cole: '11 Birds 'inches away from being great' (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120208_Cole___11_Birds__inches_away_from_being_g reat_.html)

Eagle jabber.

Cole: '11 Birds 'inches away from being great' (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120208_Cole___11_Birds__inches_away_from_being_g reat_.html)

That's what she said.

Back to Davis. Can someone breakdown the different tags a team can use? Like, which type of tag are the Skins using on Davis?


Franchise Tag - Guarantees the player the average of the top 5 highest salaries at his position. Other teams can sign, but would have to give up two 1st rounders to that club.

Transition Tag- allows player to sign with another club, but gives the team putting the tag on him the right to match the offer and retain him. No compensation is given if team doesn't match.




Davis will be getting the Franchise Tag.

Franchise Tag - Guarantees the player the average of the top 5 highest salaries at his position. Other teams can sign, but would have to give up two 1st rounders to that club.

Transition Tag- allows player to sign with another club, but gives the team putting the tag on him the right to match the offer and retain him. No compensation is given if team doesn't match.




Davis will be getting the Franchise Tag.

Thanks.

Chances are the contract is going to have a signing bonus which we will not be able to recoup if he fails another drug tests. That's money lost and money that counts against our cap. I haven't seen a contract yet that makes players give back signing bonus money for being suspended/jailed/etc. The only case I've seen signing bonus money returned is when players retire. You probably won't see one either because I'm sure the NFLPA won't allow it.


Not even sure why you would think it's a good idea to reward bad behavior.
It's hard to get money back but easy to work moral clauses into a contract.
EX. YR 1 $3mil signing bonus plus vet min salary YR 2 $5mil bonus if no off field infractions resulting in league punishment. Vet min salary.

You're on the hook for his signing bonus and his salary while on the team (minus any suspended games) but he only makes the big bucks if clean.

It's similar to the contract D'Brickashaw (sp?) Ferguson signed with the Jets when they were skeptical of his workout habits and included a bonus for showing up to the Jet's facilities to work out off season. Various players have also had them for weight.

I agree with the FA signings but PM is no d mcnabb, he's a top 5 QB of all time and when healthy he can lead any team far.

your doing exactly what I said in point 8 the "Yeah, but..." like we haven't heard this before with big name FA's...