Will we draft a WR or get a free agent

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SKINSnCANES
02-01-2005, 02:24 AM
we could probably trade down, and still get mike williams. expecially if he doesnt put up a fast time at the combine

KLHJ2
02-01-2005, 02:43 AM
All we need to do to move the chains is have a more successful running game. The YDS were there, but the YDS per carry were not. I am not in a position to scrutinize Gibbs, but I feel that in today's game you need to run more in between the tackles and with a lead blocker not a pulling lineman or H-back.
The majority of the league's top defenses rely on a speedy defense, which is able to defend the counter, off tackle, and outside running. The reason is not only speed, but defenses are more aggressive because they blitz not only with LB's, but DB's as well. By doing this they take away the outside running game. You have to expose that type of blitz by running up the middle with a lead blocker and just keep pounding. If you don't think that I know what I am talking about, then look at what happened to our defense against the Ravens in the second half last year. Why run 20 YDS to gain 3 when you can run 20 and gain 15?

KLHJ2
02-01-2005, 02:46 AM
tell me why do we need to draft a WR

Shane
02-01-2005, 03:02 AM
Just because he is hunting down another WR doesnt meanthat Coles is no longer the man. Remember 1991 our last Super Bowl winning season; Monk, Clark, and Sanders. It's a formula that he is trying to re-create in my eyes. Coles, ?, and McCants. The whole Coles is not going to be at his peak again is a coy. You do know that other teams representatives watch and listen to other coaches press confrences. Coles had a record high receptions this year, although his yardage was lacking he still caught the ball. What did Monk do? He caught the ball!

Our offense was just about the worst in the NFL. Our passing game downfield was nonexistent almost. Coles was brought in to be the cornerstone, and unfortunately, unless and until he recovers he is not physically capable of doing it, in my opinion. Coles can still play as you point out - he just doesn't threaten anyone with his downfield speed at this point.

Taylor Jacobs is being set up to be a starter soon.

We are told that we are looking to bring in a free agent WR to build around. To me, the guy you build around means a top flight #1 receiver with a long term future. Coles at this point is possibly above average, but not by a lot.

I'm adding this up and coming up with Coles being the #3 receiver once we get our cornerstone free agent if we do, and Jacobs ascending to the starting position.

If we draft a top receiver on top of signing Plaxico Burress, then the clock is ticking before Coles drops down to a #4 WR.

If Coles were healthy, we would not be talking about a WR crisis at this point. Unless he heals to the point where he can recover his full capacities, he is holding a spot until he can get replaced as far as I can see.

KLHJ2
02-01-2005, 03:20 AM
Muhammad is out of the question. He is a dinosaur in football terms. If we are going to pick up a receiver he had better be somewhat young. I personally do not think that we need a WR. We just need a powerfull offensive line.
Coles= not out to pasture yet.
McCants= Needs to be given a shot for the possession WR spot.
Thrash= Played for us, Started for Philly, pretty fast and experienced.
Jacobs= should be better than what he is.
Antonio Brown= fast as anything
Nathan Black= Who is Nathan Black?
Ok maybe pick up a WR free agent, but just for the depth value we have potential playmakers. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL.

KLHJ2
02-01-2005, 03:39 AM
I can see where you are comming from, but Coles still has an entire offseason to recover. And if we sign Burress we will be straight at that position. So why not draft a standout corner?

Redskins8588
02-01-2005, 03:42 AM
I can see where you are comming from, but Coles still has an entire offseason to recover. And if we sign Burress we will be straight at that position. So why not draft a standout corner?

Coles had an entire offseason, last offseason to recover.

backrow
02-01-2005, 07:56 AM
Based on previous drafts, the Redskins will take the BPA! It seems that was, and is always the case. So, now we need to look at Mock Drafts to determine who that BPA is! We will decide, and probably be right! More right than the Washtimes! The Washpost will be a great indicator, however, as the Draft approaches. Look at the numbers of Mocks, determine which name shows up the most at our spot, and viola! You have the BPA! This ain't Rocket Science!

Daseal
02-01-2005, 08:31 AM
Okay, first of all McCants is in Gibbs doghouse and I wouldn't be suprised to see him traded to a team with real WR problems for a low pick (another waste of money since he got a new roster or a bonus or some couple mil thing last year.)

Second of all, I feel our poor running game stemmed mainly from our poor passing game rather than blocking. Did you notice where they almost always played man coverage and put the safeties in the box? This is much easier to do when you never open up more to more than two WRs. We need to show different formation, including multiple receivers, and we do need to lead with a true fullback from time to time. I feel Portis will be fine if we can make teams respect the passing game. Not to mention with them looking to emphasive illegal contact we can get some huge gains and not even throw the ball (or throw it and get larger gains)!

Jacobs I feel will be a great receiver for us. He's first round talent gotten in the 2nd (thanks to a flu at the combine.) Spurrier took a lot of shit on this board for that pick, most everyone wanted Mike Doss, but Jacobs has great speed and strong hands. I think he'll making a push for that 2nd WR spot, especially if we draft a rookie.

I think a TE is crucial to the offense and creates matchup problems. Whoever mentioned Shockey, what has he done since his rookie year? Answer - nothing. However, TGon and THeap are great TEs that can cause matchup nightmares for opposing defenses. I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Miller because I certainly think he has the temperment he wants, but I think we have more important needs, and I don't think he's a beast like other top flight TEs.

KWII injury prone because someone breaks his leg early in his career? Don't count on it, he's still the best TE taken last year and the Browns will be centering their offense around him for years to come.

Coles still has a long way to go to get healthy again. I hope he can, but I agree with a previous poster that he could certainly start dropping in status. Unfortunately that massive contract doesn't get any smaller along with the role he plays on the team.

The nice things about speedy defenses is counters, reverses, etc can really open them up. See Super Bowl XVII, now I know Gibbs could sting the killer bees, let's hope he can bring that back. Portis has top class speed and can be a homerun threat. We need to get him one on one matchups with linebackers. I really feel spreading the field will help that. I think our line has more potential talent than we think, but we can't make big changes to the line and expect it to get better every year. I want a center, and then I want to leave them alone! If Dockery doesn't improve, replace him at some point.

FRPLG
02-01-2005, 09:26 AM
You have all forgotten about McCants and Jacobs all they need is a shot. The problems were not at WR this year, though Gardner had his fair share.
Our receivers were a MAJOR problem this year. The other things you mentioned were also issues but our receivers were probably the weakest unit on the team this year.

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