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biffle 02-06-2012, 01:28 AM All of that's true but none of that means that they weren't necessarily still the best team in the AFC. By the end of the season, the Texans defense was almost surely the premier defense in the conference, and that whole limping in thing happened, in large part, because Andre Johnson was limping.
As well as the Schaub thing. The debate as to who is more important to the Texans was not solved. But if you had thought before that Arian Foster was just reaping the benefits of Schaub/Johnson, that was proven wrong.
Yeah, that must be it. I mean, Johnson was a non-factor all year, but it didn't matter until the end of the year. They were the top seed and cruising until Schaub went down and once he did they couldn't beat Indy and Jacksonville. But that's a coincindence.
I've been through arguments with guys like you before. Every Super Bowl is being won by franchise QBs. Most are lost by franchise QBs. Most divisions are won by the teams with the best QBs.
Bad defenses, bad lines, bad special teams, bad running games. They have all won SBs lately.
But you're gonna tiwst yourself around to come up with excuses for it. Non franchise QBs who coulda/woulda/shoulda won the title. Oh, it almost happened. It will happen. They wuz robbed. etc etc.
Well, have at it. I think it's ridiculous, but keep fighting that fight, brother.
GTripp0012 02-06-2012, 02:35 AM Yeah, that must be it. I mean, Johnson was a non-factor all year, but it didn't matter until the end of the year. They were the top seed and cruising until Schaub went down and once he did they couldn't beat Indy and Jacksonville. But that's a coincindence.
I've been through arguments with guys like you before. Every Super Bowl is being won by franchise QBs. Most are lost by franchise QBs. Most divisions are won by the teams with the best QBs.
Bad defenses, bad lines, bad special teams, bad running games. They have all won SBs lately.
But you're gonna tiwst yourself around to come up with excuses for it. Non franchise QBs who coulda/woulda/shoulda won the title. Oh, it almost happened. It will happen. They wuz robbed. etc etc.
Well, have at it. I think it's ridiculous, but keep fighting that fight, brother.Look, to put it politely, you don't know what you are talking about.
There's a reason the best quarterbacks win a lot of games and populate the playoff field. It has nothing to do with why you think it does. When two quarterbacks play in the super bowl and the second best quarterback wins, it makes your argument bunk. The second best quarterback in this super bowl won it. The second best quarterback two years ago won it. The second best quarterback three years ago won it. The second best quarterback four years ago won it.
Obviously, there's something there as to why Tom Brady has lost two super bowls to Eli Manning, but beat Kurt Warner in one. Some would even suggest that just maybe, other players on the field matter.
biffle 02-06-2012, 03:03 AM Look, to put it politely, you don't know what you are talking about.
There's a reason the best quarterbacks win a lot of games and populate the playoff field. It has nothing to do with why you think it does. When two quarterbacks play in the super bowl and the second best quarterback wins, it makes your argument bunk. The second best quarterback in this super bowl won it. The second best quarterback two years ago won it. The second best quarterback three years ago won it. The second best quarterback four years ago won it.
Obviously, there's something there as to why Tom Brady has lost two super bowls to Eli Manning, but beat Kurt Warner in one. Some would even suggest that just maybe, other players on the field matter.
Yeah, none of that really has anything to do with anything.
Don't worry, man. One of these years a team without a franchise QB will win a Super Bowl again, and then at least you'll have something to crow about while you're pretending that franchise QBs aren't really that important.
It'll happen. You just have to wait. Keep the faith.
GTripp0012 02-06-2012, 03:20 AM Yeah, none of that really has anything to do with anything.
Don't worry, man. One of these years a team without a franchise QB will win a Super Bowl again, and then at least you'll have something to crow about while you're pretending that franchise QBs aren't really that important.
It'll happen. You just have to wait. Keep the faith.I don't think a team without a franchise QB will EVER win it again. The reasoning is easy, for those who know how to use it: franchise QB is a meaningless term roughly used on players who have lead their team deep into the playoff or have won super bowls. I mean, think about Eli Manning in 2007. No one knew he was a franchise quarterback. BUT HE WAS!!!!!11!!
So if Joe Flacco's pass to Lee Evans gets caught, BOOM! You call him a franchise quarterback. And the observation holds. T.J. Yates? Franchise quarterback. Mark Sanchez? Franchise quarterback. Alex Smith? Franchise quarterback.
You can do whatever you want with labels. How would you like to be "Einstein?" Labels are meaningless, so I'd have no problem calling you that if you'd like.
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-06-2012, 03:23 AM I don't think a team without a franchise QB will EVER win it again. The reasoning is easy, for those who know how to use it: franchise QB is a meaningless term roughly used on players who have lead their team deep into the playoff or have won super bowls. I mean, think about Eli Manning in 2007. No one knew he was a franchise quarterback. BUT HE WAS!!!!!11!!
So if Joe Flacco's pass to Lee Evans gets caught, BOOM! You call him a franchise quarterback. And the observation holds. T.J. Yates? Franchise quarterback. Mark Sanchez? Franchise quarterback. Alex Smith? Franchise quarterback.
You can do whatever you want with labels. How would you like to be "Einstein?" Labels are meaningless, so I'd have no problem calling you that if you'd like.
I'd like you to call me Akbar Shabazz Jenkins-Robinson III.
GTripp0012 02-06-2012, 03:26 AM I'd like you to call me Akbar Shabazz Jenkins-Robinson III.That's too long. How about Shabby?
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-06-2012, 03:28 AM That's too long. How about Shabby?
How about Shabby JR III? Kinda like a rap name.
GTripp0012 02-06-2012, 03:33 AM I think I'm just going to call you killer.
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-06-2012, 03:53 AM or "sport" "captain" "governor" any will do.
biffle 02-06-2012, 03:53 AM I don't think a team without a franchise QB will EVER win it again. The reasoning is easy, for those who know how to use it: franchise QB is a meaningless term roughly used on players who have lead their team deep into the playoff or have won super bowls. I mean, think about Eli Manning in 2007. No one knew he was a franchise quarterback. BUT HE WAS!!!!!11!!
So if Joe Flacco's pass to Lee Evans gets caught, BOOM! You call him a franchise quarterback. And the observation holds. T.J. Yates? Franchise quarterback. Mark Sanchez? Franchise quarterback. Alex Smith? Franchise quarterback.
You can do whatever you want with labels. How would you like to be "Einstein?" Labels are meaningless, so I'd have no problem calling you that if you'd like.
What's funny is that I think you believe you've made some kind of point here.
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