The Texans lost their franchise QB and went from a Super Bowl favorite to a playoff also ran. I'm really not sure why that would teach you that franchise QBs aren't crucial to being a SB contender.
This, for the win.
celts32
02-05-2012, 12:04 PM
The Texans lost their franchise QB and went from a Super Bowl favorite to a playoff also ran. I'm really not sure why that would teach you that franchise QBs aren't crucial to being a SB contender.
haha...this thread is over...
CultBrennan59
02-05-2012, 12:07 PM
haha...this thread is over...
yeah, they have good QB's, but not elite ones!
GTripp0012
02-05-2012, 12:58 PM
The Houston Texans were an also ran this postseason? Really?
My recollection has them as the team that took the Ravens down to the wire in Baltimore the week before the Ravens nearly took the Pats out on the road in the AFC Championship. But maybe I just have a selective memory.
Bottom line is despite losing their quarterback, they still were in the discussion as the best team in the AFC at the end of the year. The spin in this thread is incredible.
redskinjim
02-05-2012, 02:08 PM
no more grossman starting!!!We cant win with a bumb nobody can show me the last bumb in the superbowl it was grossman with the bears
The Houston Texans were an also ran this postseason? Really?
My recollection has them as the team that took the Ravens down to the wire in Baltimore the week before the Ravens nearly took the Pats out on the road in the AFC Championship. But maybe I just have a selective memory.
Bottom line is despite losing their quarterback, they still were in the discussion as the best team in the AFC at the end of the year. The spin in this thread is incredible.
Calling them an also ran is a bit over the top, but they definitely would have had a better shot with Schaub at the helm.
EARTHQUAKE2689
02-05-2012, 02:46 PM
Calling them an also ran is a bit over the top, but they definitely would have had a better shot with Schaub at the helm.
If Schaub and Johnson were 100% I feel this Sunday is Giants v. Texans. First off the road to the SB would have come through Houston.
GTripp0012
02-05-2012, 02:50 PM
Calling them an also ran is a bit over the top, but they definitely would have had a better shot with Schaub at the helm.Certainly, but it's hardly a guarantee that they would have gotten any further, just of higher expectations.
Which was really my point: if the number one thing having a healthy, well-respected quarterback is that expecatations will be higher, I'm not sure why that's preferable over finding an elite pass rusher, an elite playmaker on offense, or an all-pro safety. The Texans had stability at quarterback for years and years, which helped them build a defense, but it's ironic at the least and telling at the most that for years the Texans couldn't win anything and then Schaub gets hurt and then they end up in the same place they appeared to be heading before he got hurt.
They probably win 11 or 12 games in the regular season if Schaub starts 16 games, but that's probably true of Andre Johnson as well.
biffle
02-06-2012, 12:26 AM
The Houston Texans were an also ran this postseason? Really?
My recollection has them as the team that took the Ravens down to the wire in Baltimore the week before the Ravens nearly took the Pats out on the road in the AFC Championship. But maybe I just have a selective memory.
Bottom line is despite losing their quarterback, they still were in the discussion as the best team in the AFC at the end of the year. The spin in this thread is incredible.
Well, they lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the champs. I guess you can believe that makes them a hair from the title if you'd like.
They were the best team in the AFC with Schaub. WIthout him, they limped in and got a win over the worst team in the playoffs, and then were knocked out.
GTripp0012
02-06-2012, 12:37 AM
Well, they lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the champs. I guess you can believe that makes them a hair from the title if you'd like.
They were the best team in the AFC with Schaub. WIthout him, they limped in and got a win over the worst team in the playoffs, and then were knocked out.All of that's true but none of that means that they weren't necessarily still the best team in the AFC. By the end of the season, the Texans defense was almost surely the premier defense in the conference, and that whole limping in thing happened, in large part, because Andre Johnson was limping.
As well as the Schaub thing. The debate as to who is more important to the Texans was not solved. But if you had thought before that Arian Foster was just reaping the benefits of Schaub/Johnson, that was proven wrong.