SkinzWin
02-03-2012, 02:31 PM
You can use that same scenario with ANYBODY. Any player in the NFL has a chance to get knocked out of the game in one play. Peyton has been playing with this neck injury since 2004 so not sure why he's so fragile now. The guy hasn't missed a single game, now all of a sudden, we have him going out in 1 game.
You draft RGIII and use a ton of picks. He tears his ACL on first game, we didn't have the adequate talent on our team to carry on because we gave up all of our draft picks this year and some of next. See, I can do the same scenario. That high draft pick we would have had the following year is now some other teams because we decided to sell the farm.
But that's not my point. Yes any player can have a career ending injury on any play at any point in a game. Peyton Manning has a substantially higher risk for getting a career ending injury than a fully healthy player. He has had three neck surgeries in the last 10 months. Not in 2004. His spinal stenosis is a degenerative disease that gets worse, not better.
You have to agree that with his spinal stenosis and three spinal fusions, the chances of him getting knocked out permanently on ANY hit, not necessarily a vicious hit, are exponentially increased.
NC_Skins
02-03-2012, 02:34 PM
Peyton Manning has a substantially higher risk for getting a career ending injury than a fully healthy player.
Base on what evidence?
SkinzWin
02-03-2012, 02:38 PM
We sure have a lot of doctors in the house eh?
lol
The Dr. who performed his surgery cleared him, of course he still has to keep rehabbing to get the strength back in his arm, but regardless it sounds like he's on the right track.
I'm not a Dr. but I think it is fairly safe to say that a high profile player who has a strong desire to come back and play the game that he loves could find a Dr. that was willing to grant him the medical clearance he desired. Even if that player knew playing again could end his career or worse. You can't tell me that has never happened before in professional sports.
los panda
02-03-2012, 02:43 PM
This PR battle between Irsay and Manning has to be turning off potential suitors.for what reasons?
SmootSmack
02-03-2012, 02:45 PM
HAHAHAHA.......I was thinking the same thing.
man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people
SkinzWin
02-03-2012, 02:46 PM
Base on what evidence?
Based on the evidence of spinal stenosis being a narrowing of the spine that deteriorates over time and that three spinal fusions in the same place over a 10 month period is not reassuring in the fact that it is getting better, more likely that it is getting worse.
Although I am not a Dr. or medical expert, I am fairly confident from what I have looked into the matter that a typical spinal fusion is only needed on a specific vertebrae once. People often have multiple fusions if they have a neck and spinal disorder, but on different vertebrae. The fact that he has had three surgeries on the same area is, IMO, a very telling outcome and not in a positive way.
NC_Skins
02-03-2012, 02:47 PM
could find a Dr. that was willing to grant him the medical clearance he desired.
None of those doctors are going to stake their reputation like that. It would also be grounds for a huge lawsuit if they cleared him on false grounds. These guys are some of the best in the business AND one of the doctors is the team neurosurgeon for the Colts.
Higskin
02-03-2012, 02:49 PM
We sure have a lot of doctors in the house eh?
lol
The Dr. who performed his surgery cleared him, of course he still has to keep rehabbing to get the strength back in his arm, but regardless it sounds like he's on the right track.
I'm not a Dr. but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Does that count?
Seriously though, the nerves that fire to his tricep are what's holding things up. Problem is you get muscular atrophy because muscles need nerve stimulation to exist. There's treatments like steriods (LOL), electrical stimulation, rigorous exercises trying to jump start those nerves, etc.
His neck is what all the Doc's are okaying.
lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.
Hilarious.
SkinzWin
02-03-2012, 02:56 PM
None of those doctors are going to stake their reputation like that. It would also be grounds for a huge lawsuit if they cleared him on false grounds. These guys are some of the best in the business AND one of the doctors is the team neurosurgeon for the Colts.
Just like a Dr. wouldn't stake their reputation writing prescriptions for illegal performance enhancing HGH steroids for professional baseball players? Deception and illegal actions in medicine are just as prevalent as in all other industries. I believe it would be naive to think otherwise.