I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)


30gut
02-02-2012, 12:18 PM
Manning if healthy is a fit for any offense.

KI Skins Fan
02-02-2012, 12:43 PM
How about a 6+ who used to play wide receiver and make him an NFL QB and rhymes with Benadryl? :)

Griffinadryl? I didn't know RGIII used to play WR.

Sign Peyton Manninadryl?

Trade for Big Benadryl?

Perhaps I should try againadryl.

SBXVII
02-02-2012, 01:46 PM
Manning if healthy is a fit for any offense.

Here's my only issue with Manning and it was brought up on Mike and Mike today while they were talking to the old Ravens HC Billick, basically said there are two knocks against Peyton from the start;

1- he will not have done any playing in over a year and a half.
2- no matter where he goes he will have to learn the verbage and plays.

He said what makes Peyton so good is the fact he was in the same system for so long that he would go into the meetings and basically take over and tell the OL what he wanted them to do and tell the WR's what he wanted them to do and had all those years in the same system to work on the hand signs and signals. Where ever Peyton goes next probably won't be as effective atleast for 2 yrs.

I like Peyton and want him here and would love to see him succeed but I honestly think he's done and would hope that if he's declared done then he wouldn't mind staying on as an assistant to work up the coaching ranks. I could see him and KS planning plays together, Peyton coaching up the QB's and helping out with signals and signs here.

freddyg12
02-02-2012, 01:48 PM
Manning if healthy is a fit for any offense.

sure, but I wouldn't underestimate the learning curve in a new system. I'm not just talking about the learning curve for him, but also for all the other guys that haven't played w/him & his new coaches. The older a player is the more difficult it is mentally to make the transition.

I could easily see how a perfectly healthy Manning at 36 could go to a new team & really struggle, maybe due to little fault of his. He's had such a command of his team for so long & his success has hinged largely on his constant pre-snap calls & communication to his teamates. To come in & get a new team on the same page w/him while he is also learning a new system might be more of a task than most of us think. It might take a year to get in sync, but the guy's physical ability is likely to be declining even if he's healthy.

freddyg12
02-02-2012, 01:51 PM
Here's my only issue with Manning and it was brought up on Mike and Mike today while they were talking to the old Ravens HC Billick, basically said there are two knocks against Peyton from the start;

1- he will not have done any playing in over a year and a half.
2- no matter where he goes he will have to learn the verbage and plays.

He said what makes Peyton so good is the fact he was in the same system for so long that he would go into the meetings and basically take over and tell the OL what he wanted them to do and tell the WR's what he wanted them to do and had all those years in the same system to work on the hand signs and signals. Where ever Peyton goes next probably won't be as effective atleast for 2 yrs.

I like Peyton and want him here and would love to see him succeed but I honestly think he's done and would hope that if he's declared done then he wouldn't mind staying on as an assistant to work up the coaching ranks. I could see him and KS planning plays together, Peyton coaching up the QB's and helping out with signals and signs here.

you posted while I was writing mine! Some of the same points I made. Plus, please don't anyone compare Farve & his last good year in Minnesota to Manning. Totally different style, Manning is a perfectionist & control freak that needs total command of the offense in order to play his game.

SBXVII
02-02-2012, 01:57 PM
sure, but I wouldn't underestimate the learning curve in a new system. I'm not just talking about the learning curve for him, but also for all the other guys that haven't played w/him & his new coaches. The older a player is the more difficult it is mentally to make the transition.

I could easily see how a perfectly healthy Manning at 36 could go to a new team & really struggle, maybe due to little fault of his. He's had such a command of his team for so long & his success has hinged largely on his constant pre-snap calls & communication to his teamates. To come in & get a new team on the same page w/him while he is also learning a new system might be more of a task than most of us think. It might take a year to get in sync, but the guy's physical ability is likely to be declining even if he's healthy.

Yes exactly my point. I think the QB's that might do best in your scenario are the journeyman QB's who have learned how to cram for their next exam/team. I would think players who have been with one team over a long period of time might struggle, ie; McNabb.

Higskin
02-02-2012, 02:14 PM
"Come on Man" - to the guys who don't think he can learn a new scheme?

Peyton is coming from one of the most difficult offensive systems, will never be out done in the film room, out studied or out schemed. Calls plays at the line of scrimmage, calls all the protections, calls out blocking and can change a play in the same breath.

It's up to the coaches to decide but he certainly deserves a look and from about 25 other teams in the league as well.

30gut
02-02-2012, 02:26 PM
Personally I don't think Peyton Manning will be physically able nor do I think it would be wise for him to play football; so for me its kinda a moot point.

But, if healthy Peyton is a one man show as far as passing game goes.
Imo it makes little to no sense to ask Peyton to learn your passing game because what are the odds its gonna be better then Peyton's?

If you sign Peyton you sign on for the whole show, you meet him halfway at least.
Peyton installs his offense, Peyton will have near total control of the passing game.
No one works harder at teaching the system as Peyton himself.
We've heard the reports of Peyton going to meet and teach young WRs the offense as evidenced by his work with Gonzalez, Garcon, Collie etc.
I'm sure Peyton and the OC can put their heads together and figure out how to translate Peyton's offense into the verbiage of his new team's language.

If he's healthy Peyton is going to be Peyton.

SBXVII
02-02-2012, 02:28 PM
^ I said bring him in. Lets kick the tires as long as he's cut and we don't have to trade players or picks to get him. I would hope his work habits would run off on whoever is sitting behind him on the roster. If healthy he'd have to be 50% better then what we already have.

But on this issue I'm a skeptic. I thinks he's done and would love to have him here in order to be able to offer (when the time came) a coaching job to work with the young guns down the road.

RexKelly
02-02-2012, 02:39 PM
I think that the Redskins are actually going to end up with Kyle Orton and possibly even resign Rex Grossman. We don't have any firepower to get Bradford or Luck.....

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