I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

We've been through this. I've been "in the biz" for 15 years. I don't get everything right but members here were the first to know about:

Betts' new contract
Our interest in Andre Carter
Our interest in Haynesworth
That we were going to draft Trent Williams
Sign Grossman
Sign Torain
Not be interested in Peppers
Dockery's crazy contract figures before he sign with Buffalo
Steve Jackson's firing
Keenan's firing
That we were going to draft Hankerson

And so on
Fair enough, like I said.. No disrespect, I'm just surprised that these type of things would be getting tossed around outside of the big guys.

Why do you even bother responding to the peanut gallery SS?...lol I'm glad we have so few like him that act like that. Most of us understand the deal and realize the information is changing constantly.
Lol, ya because I'm not aware of this.

He answered me because I was curious, don't get offended by it or anything.

I'm trying to think of a team with a franchise QB that gave up the farm to get him.

Cutler

Good example Alvin. Also Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, and Sanchize. Also, arguably, Kolb, Tebow, and Gabbert, depending on how one defines "franchise QB" and how one defines "giving up the farm."

The fact is, teams regularly give up a lot if it means they can land their QB guy.

Fair enough, like I said.. No disrespect, I'm just surprised that these type of things would be getting tossed around outside of the big guys.

The big guys? Who are they?

The big guys? Who are they?

Colin Cowherd.

The big guys? Who are they?

Bruce Allen, Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, and whoever they want to include into their ideas.

Bruce Allen, Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, and whoever they want to include into their ideas.

Ah I see. Well it's certainly harder than when Cerrato was there or when I was going to Redskin Park all the time. But I still have my ways.

Ah I see. Well it's certainly harder than when Cerrato was there or when I was going to Redskin Park all the time. But I still have my ways.

It's amazing what toture will do for you isn't it?

Yes, if Mannning or any other player is released now that player is up for grabs by any team in the league. The same goes for any player who is a free agent now. TO for example could be signed by anyone right now.

When the league year begins in March is when players like Laron Landry will be available for any team to sign. Or players like Vjax, Desean and all other FA. These players contracts don't officially end till the league year begins, so until then they are still the property of their respective teams.

Is that clear or do you have another question pertaining to FA and when they are available to sign.

Well obviously players who are still under contract with their current teams (like the projected UFA) are off limits but I wasn't sure how the new CBA was written pertaining to players released during the existing league year but after all games were completed. I'm not a moron, just seeking clarification.

It depends what the ultimate reward is. The AFC has only sent three different teams to the Super Bowl since 2002. The NFC has sent pretty much anyone. Including the Cardinals and almost the Alex Smith 49ers.

What I'm saying is that there's been no formula to make the super bowl in the NFC beyond having a good season and a great playoff run. There's no question that being great at the quarterback position is going to help you, but I would say no more than being able to shut down an opponent's great quarterback. We never talk about how the Redskins haven't been able to do the latter in about five years, while the former gets all sorts of discussion.

The history of the Redskins (and the Cowboys) suggests that if there's any franchise in pro football that can win consistently without stability at the QB position, it's those large market teams that can throw their weight and money around and develop the best coaching and player development techniques. Small market teams: they're not going to be able to put together much of a run without one signal caller that they can rely on for 10 years or so. But the Redskins absolutely could if they wanted to just go with veterans at quarterback.

I mean, the Redskins are kind of the gold standard for the idea that you can win year to year in the NFL without one guy at the quarterback position making 100 million dollars. San Diego can't win consistently without an elite franchise quarterback, but I still think Washington can.


What about the last 20 years says that is even remotely true?

We have not been a competitive franchise for decades and the one constant has been QB play.

We need to go after someone who has a legitimate shot at fixing our QB problems.

Like I'm saying, if we have a real chance at Luck, we need to take that opportunity by any means necessary.