ProFootballFocus: Best/Worst drop rate for 2011 WRs

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MTK
01-25-2012, 12:07 PM
Leading the league in drops isn't good any way you spin it. I'm sure Roddy White would be the first to admit that. That said he went through some early season struggles but got things worked out. It happens.

htownskinfan
01-25-2012, 02:27 PM
Since this is a wr thread and I didnt want to start a whole new thread about it,I found out this morning that the skins offered Jacoby Jones of the texans a million more than the texans and he turned us down,so glad he did.{last offseason}

Skins4L
01-25-2012, 07:40 PM
I see that, but still one can't derive, clearly, that these receivers have the case of the drops when there are a lot of variables that go into this. For one thing, look how many more passing attempts are thrown Roddy White's way as opposed to Golden Tate. 115 to 35? How many of those are little hitch passes, bombs down field, perfectly thrown balls, etc.... And, the receivers with the best percentage of catches:drops ratio, why aren't they being thrown to more if they're that more fundamentally sound?

I just think this is one of those situations where unless you look at every single drop from these receivers, I'd be hard press to conclude their fundamentals are lacking.

this.

He's right. And its just one specific category. And who's determining catchable? I'm sure some could be disputed as well if we all sat and watched film.

Skins4L
01-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Leading the league in drops isn't good any way you spin it. I'm sure Roddy White would be the first to admit that. That said he went through some early season struggles but got things worked out. It happens.

yea he had some clear drops this year

SmootSmack
01-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Since this is a wr thread and I didnt want to start a whole new thread about it,I found out this morning that the skins offered Jacoby Jones of the texans a million more than the texans and he turned us down,so glad he did.{last offseason}

Very interesting. Did not know that

htownskinfan
02-02-2012, 01:07 AM
Very interesting. Did not know that

This was according to John Mclain of the Houston Chronicle

freddyg12
02-02-2012, 10:53 AM
We had a guy in the 80s/early 90s that dropped his fair share, but he made up for it w/his toughness & ability to make the chain moving catch in the middle of the field, and a lot of big plays downfield - Gary Clark.

Of course Clark played w/a couple great wr's & was always part of a good to great offense. I think big play wr's that drop a lot of passes are analogous to home-run hitters. If you have a good lineup around them, it's worth it to deal w/those occassional drops. If the lineup around them isn't that good, those drops become a much bigger deal cause the team has a harder time making up for it.

Adding a HR hitter w/a poor batting avg. to a poor hitting lineup probably doesn't get you much, but if you've already got good hitters, you can deal w/a few strikeouts from your power hitters. The problem w/Moss is that he's no longer a HR hitter. At this point in his career he's got to be close to sure handed. I think he deserves some slack after coming back from a broken hand, hope he can make the team next year. Either way, we need a complete reciever, a guy that's a deep threat & can make the tough catches. Hopefully Hank will be that guy.

celts32
02-02-2012, 11:23 AM
This seems like as good a thread as any to mention how ready I am to move on from Moss...

MTK
02-02-2012, 11:30 AM
If we can get a playmaker in the draft or free agency, I'd move on from Moss too. We've got Gaffney to fill the possession type of role, and Hankerson to continue to develop.

freddyg12
02-02-2012, 12:37 PM
If we can get a playmaker in the draft or free agency, I'd move on from Moss too. We've got Gaffney to fill the possession type of role, and Hankerson to continue to develop.

I'm never ready to move on from players that have been that good for us & on top of that don't cause any problems for the team. I get GTripp's point he's made in several other threads; that Moss' or any vet's spot on the roster prevents another youngster from being groomed. But I look at it this way; we have one of the weakest wr corps in the nfl & Moss is still 1 of the 2 best.

Maybe Hank changes that quickly or a new FA or draft pick does as well. Still, the past 2 years have shown that Shanny will keep a trusted vet WR on the roster, e.g. Galloway, Stallworth, Anderson. Maybe Gafney is the only one for that spot, but I think Moss still has value for the team if he can get over his drops from last year.

I see the point though, Hank, Paul & Gafney are pretty certain to make it, if they only keep 2 others that could put Moss into some tough competition. Armstrong, Anderson & Stallworth aren't likely to be here unless there's training camp injuries.

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