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44Deezel
01-23-2012, 06:25 PM
Should this make Redskins feel good? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/52425/should-this-make-redskins-feel-good)

"Given the Redskins’ victories over the Giants and how competitive they were against San Francisco and New England, how far away are they from the postseason?

Redskins fans have dealt with this very question often in recent years.

In 2008, it was the Arizona Cardinals and Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. The Redskins went 3-0 against those clubs in the regular season.

In 2009, the Redskins nearly defeated the eventual Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints in an early-December matchup at FedEx Field. They almost certainly would have won had then-kicker Shaun Suisham not missed a chip-shot field goal in the final minutes that would have secured the game for the Redskins.

And in 2010, the Redskins beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers 16-13 in a mid-October game at FedExField. They also defeated the Chicago Bears, the other NFC championship game participant, 17-10 at Soldier Field.

The point is this: even though the Redskins have played well against top-tier teams in the regular season, it has not translated to success the following season.

Every year is a new season. Simply put, the Redskins’ two victories over the Giants will mean nothing come next September."

The Skins are a good QB, good to great WR and some O-line depth away from being able to compete with anyone. The RBs are solid, the TEs are a strength and the O line looks pretty good. The Defense is good.

If Rex was a 20TD 10INT guy, the Skins would have won a lot more games this year without adding any other parts. With 8 picks in the draft and money to spend in free agency, there's no reason not to be optimistic.

I like that the Skins are shaping up to be a well balanced team a la the Ravens, Giants and 49ers. I like that style vs. the pass-happy play we see from the Saints and Packers. Still gotta be able to run and play D in the playoffs.

Giantone
01-23-2012, 06:40 PM
The Redskins played the New York Football Giants on Sept 11th and Dec 18th of 2011. Happily, we all know that Washington won both games. The two games were not highlight reels for Eli Manning. In September, he was 18 of 32 for 268 yards and 1 int. He also fumbled once. In December, Manning went 23 of 40 for 257 yds, no tuchdowns and THREE ints!

Neither Manning performance reflects championship caliber that we have seen in the late season push by the Giants. Granted Eli has delivered when it counts, but he is capable of laying an egg, and even sometimes panics under a heavy rush. New England's defense is on the upswing, and IMHO, Manning is due for a bad game. My early impression, Patriots win by 14.

Redskin fans may want to chew on this tidbit as well. Game one, Grossman was 21 of 34 for 305 yds and 2 TDs; he also lost one fumble in the 28-14 Redskin win. In game two Sexy Rexy was 15 of 24 for 185 yds, 1 TD and 2 ints. You could fairly say that Rex outperformed Eli in both games.

..wow...just wow.:doh::yeahright

sportscurmudgeon
01-23-2012, 10:55 PM
Should this make Redskins feel good? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/52425/should-this-make-redskins-feel-good)

"Given the Redskins’ victories over the Giants and how competitive they were against San Francisco and New England, how far away are they from the postseason?

Redskins fans have dealt with this very question often in recent years.

In 2008, it was the Arizona Cardinals and Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. The Redskins went 3-0 against those clubs in the regular season.

In 2009, the Redskins nearly defeated the eventual Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints in an early-December matchup at FedEx Field. They almost certainly would have won had then-kicker Shaun Suisham not missed a chip-shot field goal in the final minutes that would have secured the game for the Redskins.

And in 2010, the Redskins beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers 16-13 in a mid-October game at FedExField. They also defeated the Chicago Bears, the other NFC championship game participant, 17-10 at Soldier Field.

The point is this: even though the Redskins have played well against top-tier teams in the regular season, it has not translated to success the following season.

Every year is a new season. Simply put, the Redskins’ two victories over the Giants will mean nothing come next September."


Tru 'dat...

sportscurmudgeon
01-23-2012, 11:00 PM
The Redskins played the New York Football Giants on Sept 11th and Dec 18th of 2011. Happily, we all know that Washington won both games. The two games were not highlight reels for Eli Manning. In September, he was 18 of 32 for 268 yards and 1 int. He also fumbled once. In December, Manning went 23 of 40 for 257 yds, no tuchdowns and THREE ints!

Neither Manning performance reflects championship caliber that we have seen in the late season push by the Giants. Granted Eli has delivered when it counts, but he is capable of laying an egg, and even sometimes panics under a heavy rush. New England's defense is on the upswing, and IMHO, Manning is due for a bad game. My early impression, Patriots win by 14.

Redskin fans may want to chew on this tidbit as well. Game one, Grossman was 21 of 34 for 305 yds and 2 TDs; he also lost one fumble in the 28-14 Redskin win. In game two Sexy Rexy was 15 of 24 for 185 yds, 1 TD and 2 ints. You could fairly say that Rex outperformed Eli in both games.


For any Redskins' fans tempted to jump on this one, let me ask the bottom line question:


If you could have either Eli Manning or Rex Grossman starting as the QB for the Redskins in 2012, whom would you prefer?

Unless Eli Manning is decapitated in a horrific traffic incident in the off-season, there is no reason to think about the answer here for more than a microsecond...

Lotus
01-23-2012, 11:34 PM
For any Redskins' fans tempted to jump on this one, let me ask the bottom line question:


If you could have either Eli Manning or Rex Grossman starting as the QB for the Redskins in 2012, whom would you prefer?

Unless Eli Manning is decapitated in a horrific traffic incident in the off-season, there is no reason to think about the answer here for more than a microsecond...

Headless Eli would turn the ball over less than Wrecks.

CrazyCanuck
01-23-2012, 11:37 PM
Headless Eli would turn the ball over less than Wrecks.

How would they call in the plays from the sideline?

REDSKINS4ever
01-24-2012, 01:37 AM
Although it could happen, I just don't see New England losing to the Giants in this Super Bowl. Yes, the Giants defeated the Patriots 24-20 in New England earlier this year. Tom Brady still threw for 342 yards and some TDs. Brady has a chip on his shoulder still from the Super Bowl XLXII loss. He'll get payback this time around against Big Blue.

artmonkforhallofamein07
01-24-2012, 02:43 AM
I see the Pats winning this game.

I don't know, from the start of the playoffs, I just thought the Pats were going to win the SB again. Brady has seemed very focused and hungry to win another ring. He played poorly against the Ravens, but even if they scored the fg I still saw the Pats winning the game. Brady is a big time, clutch, and last minute game winning QB.

The Giants are very reminiscent of the 07 team that won the SB, but I just have a gut feeling on this one that the Pats will win with a late game TE td catch leaving the Eli with not enough time to score.

SirClintonPortis
01-24-2012, 03:30 AM
Pats will win.
Why?
Because I want them to lose...

irish
01-24-2012, 08:22 AM
This game will come down to D and NY's is better. NY wins a close game.

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