Apple OSX Lion = Windows Vista

I know we like to nerd out every now and then on here, and I wondered why this hasn't been discussed yet.

Basically I got to stay at work an extra three hours tonight because a student upgraded herself to Lion, then suddenly had massive network drops constantly.

Microsoft takes tons of flak when they put out shit, but I haven't heard a peep about what a failure this OS has been, with the exception of a few dozen forum posts on the Apple support website over 100 pages each.

Now, this thread is partially to whine and partially for help because I know we have some tech support people on here.

Apple has had zero help to offer except "Reload Lion from scratch, it'll be amazing." Now, this is extra frustrating because students don't notice this wireless dropout at home because it's only apparent on enterprise networks with encryption so I'm taking the heat for this. I go to Snow Leopard, the computer runs FLAWLESSLY.

If you name something, I've probably tried it, but has anyone else seen this and had a fix for it?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3190651?start=1170&tstart=0

I've pretty much tried everything in that thread...

I've heard it's had it's share of issues, personally I haven't had any problems.

Did you upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or do a fresh install? I'd say at least 50% of the students here with Lion have had serious issues.

Did you upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or do a fresh install? I'd say at least 50% of the students here with Lion have had serious issues.

I just got an iMac recently, so it came already installed.

I think most of the issues come when people upgrade from Snow Leopard from what I've read about it.

That's what it seems like, even though a lot of people here have reformatted from scratch (this is mostly laptops) and will be fine for about 2 weeks, then suddenly wireless drop-outs happen. Snow Leopard people are fine here, PC people are fine... just weird.

every time I hear iMac, I think of this old MadTV sketch. Always makes me laugh a little.

Madtv - Apple I-rack - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE)

We have 2 Mac Minis in the office, but they are not on the domain. However, I do have issues if there is more than one Mac trying to VPN from the same network (we have 3 Macs in the office, all of which use our wireless network, and they VPN into our network). The fix for that was to use Cisco AnyConnect instead of the native VPN client.

Both Minis were upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard. I am having issues getting VNC working on the Mini assigned to me. I wonder if it would be worth my while to reload, since it sounds like there are various problems if you go the upgrade route.

I come, mainly, from the PC windows/linux world, but I've always found that if you're having issues after an upgrade of the OS, it's always best to blow everything away and reload the OS from scratch. I'm sure you can do this with the Mac OS, but I've found this to be true in the Windows world.

In our shop we try to avoid upgrading as much as possible. Especially on the OS side. It's just so volatile.

In our shop we try to avoid upgrading as much as possible. Especially on the OS side. It's just so volatile.

Seems like a pretty good rule of thumb in the technical world. The latest and greatest isn't exactly the most stable and useful. Often times, by the time all the bugs are fixed and you've gotten it to do exactly what you need it to do, the OS is outdated.