The "Inside Word" on the QB Search


Hail to the Redskins
01-25-2012, 12:35 AM
Which is why I'm not a fan of tossing everything just to move up. If they do I sure hope there is a plan "B" like a FA QB brought in also.... someone decent to either challenge or be able to step in if the Rookie is not ready. I'm not a fan of two Rookie WR's but I like what I'm seeing from Weeden's practices at the Senior Bowl. He's making all the throws today, dropping the ball where only the WR can catch it and even the announcers were speaking highly of Weeden.

I'll say this... Many people go straight to Weeden's age...

But what if he comes in as a rookie and plays like Andy Dalton? Then is his age a huge issue? I mean, a good QB plays through 34-35.

Brees was 33 this year, Brady is 34, Eli is 31, & brother Peyton won his SB at 30, lost one at 33... heck, Elway was 37 & 38 in his SBs... also see Kurt Warner, Brad Johnson, and Rich Gannon.

By my count, he could be at least 6 to 8 year run of good QB play for someone possibly.

I could see Weeden being this year's Dalton for sure.... why not?

SBXVII
01-25-2012, 12:59 AM
Senior Bowl Day 2: South practice report (http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/Senior-Bowl-Day-2-South-practice-report?blockID=637474&feedID=6355)

* Overall, Weeden is in the lead among all six quarterbacks. Just looks the part better and throws a better football.

EARTHQUAKE2689
01-25-2012, 01:05 AM
True.. Here's a Q

Luck Or RG3?

Luck. No question.

REDSKINS4ever
01-25-2012, 01:07 AM
Weedon is definitely the one of the best quarterbacks in the draft. Because of his age, he may be the most mature of all the quarterbacks entering the 2012 NFL draft. As the old saying goes, age ain't nothing but a number. What if Weedon does what Big Ben did in his rookie season?

EARTHQUAKE2689
01-25-2012, 01:38 AM
Weedon is definitely the one of the best quarterbacks in the draft. Because of his age, he may be the most mature of all the quarterbacks entering the 2012 NFL draft. As the old saying goes, age ain't nothing but a number. What if Weedon does what Big Ben did in his rookie season?

The problem with Weeden is that age is a factor. He's in his prime now so chances are he won't get much better while other QBs have that luxury.

EARTHQUAKE2689
01-25-2012, 01:49 AM
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Shadowbyte
01-25-2012, 01:51 AM
I'll say this... Many people go straight to Weeden's age...

But what if he comes in as a rookie and plays like Andy Dalton? Then is his age a huge issue? I mean, a good QB plays through 34-35.

Brees was 33 this year, Brady is 34, Eli is 31, & brother Peyton won his SB at 30, lost one at 33... heck, Elway was 37 & 38 in his SBs... also see Kurt Warner, Brad Johnson, and Rich Gannon.

By my count, he could be at least 6 to 8 year run of good QB play for someone possibly.

I could see Weeden being this year's Dalton for sure.... why not?

Here's my opinion on Weeden. When he went head to head with Andrew Luck the one thing that stood out to me was Weeden actually attempted and completed more NFL throws than Luck. Weeden was shooting lazers deep into the heart of their pass defense. He wasn't going for the easy dink and dunks, or only throwing it down field when the reciever was wide open by a country mile like Andrew Luck did. I really like Weeden and wouldn't be dismayed at all if we decided to take him with a 2nd or 3 round pick.

CultBrennan59
01-25-2012, 02:03 AM
Heres a couple quick thoughts I have on Weeden;

- He may be old, but he's a pocket-passing QB, those guys have shelve lives for a long time. Vinny Testeverde played tell he was like 45-46ish?

- Kurt Warner entered the NFL as a 28 year old, he left as a 37 year old who took 2 different teams to the super bowl and appeared there 3 times.

-Mike Mayock said today that everyone should just stop with the comparisons of Chris Weinke to Weeden, that Weeden is a much better passer and polished QB than Weinke.

-Lets also not forget that Weeden threw to a 2 time Fred Biletnikof receiver, and first rounder, Justin Blackmon. That really helps, and makes you wonder what he can do when he doesn't have a big name great WR.

Age doesn't matter much to me know, because QB's are honestly just a few years off from a kicker or punter, and if you have one that can get the ball out fast, is smart, and has a good arm, well he can play till he's 40 something to be honest.

EARTHQUAKE2689
01-25-2012, 02:27 AM
Rank of QBs in order I want them.

1a) Andrew Luck
1b) Robert Griffin III
2) Ryan Tannehill
3) Nick Foles
4) Russell Wilson
5) Brandon Weeden
6) Ryan Lindey
7) Brock "Lesnar" Osweiler

SBXVII
01-25-2012, 04:23 AM
Rank of QBs in order I want them.

1a) Andrew Luck
1b) Robert Griffin III
2) Ryan Tannehill
3) Nick Foles
4) Russell Wilson
5) Brandon Weeden
6) Ryan Lindey
7) Brock "Lesnar" Osweiler

Ok, #'s 1a & 1b might be gone by the time the Redskins can pick, I still can't fathom what it might cost to move up and if we can do it why wouldn't the Browns with more ammo go after a franchise QB since they don't have one either?

#2 deciding not to partake in the Senior Bowl is not helping his status.

#3 did not look as sharp today or very big compared to his counter parts.

#4 I forget what the knock on him was, sorry but he and the Lindly kid are last on my list.

#5 Weeden has done nothing but improve his stock for me. Won his Bowl game, against Luck, threw all the passes to include the deep ball perfectly, showed up for the Senior Bowl in shape, and has been tossing the ball pretty well to include rolling out and throwing the ball in a similar system the Skins use. I say similar cause it's a watered down version of what we do but he looks good doing it.

#6 Lindly I think if I'm not mistaken is too short at like 5-9 or 5-10.

#7 intrigues me cause he is like 6-8 and supposedly. An make decent throws.i think this kids knock was being able to read defenses.

I understand the concern about Weedens age and as mention Mayoch(spelling) said this kid will be someone you bring in and either start immediately if you can get him to understand enough of your offense or start within a year or two cause he will most likely play into his 30's.

My second reason for him is he is mature and hopefully will make better decisions because of being more mature.

My last reason is because he is right now learning some of our offense and picking it up well and looks good and he buys us time to look at other QB's in the next few years to start developing without having to toss half of our valuable draft picks this year and next year to get.

He's someone we can take in the 1st that will already know the coaches and some of the plays and the coaches will already know him and what he needs to finish learning and still have a full compliment of draft picks to pick up other offensive weapons to help him out vs. tossing half our picks away at one QB whom we won't start picking up help for until round 3 or 4. We need more WR help whether you guys realize it or not. Our 3 top WRs are Moss(aged), Gaffney, Armstrong(50/50), and Hankerson. The rest really didn't contribute except Stallworth who was let go mid season and brought back. Hankerson still has to prove himself, and Armstrong could have been only a flash in the pan we shall see if he takes his mediocre play to heart this year and steps up or not.

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