The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

So Smoot... What is your opinion on the whole ESPN anchor, Manning & Saturday to the Redskins whole thing?

Got a link ,becuase I have been looking for it and can't find it anywhere?

Just out of curiosity, can anyone post any numbers as to other teams that have made extreme "reaches" (in terms of picks/players traded) for Cannot Miss players...and that players subsequent success?
Because, I do not know what the answer is off hand.....

Just out of curiosity, can anyone post any numbers as to other teams that have made extreme "reaches" (in terms of picks/players traded) for Cannot Miss players...and that players subsequent success?
Because, I do not know what the answer is off hand.....

Falcons to an extent with Vick and the Giants with Manning. The only time it didn't really work is when the Jets traded for Sanchez and even then they got two pretty good playoff runs out of the guy. More times then not though teams don't pull the trigger on these trade ups, either because a team ahead of them is set on taking the guy they want or the pick is available for trade but the price is to high (either in terms of pick or contract size).

As a reminder the trades are as follows.

Chargers get: Philip Rivers (1, 4) and Nate Kaeding (3, 65) in ’04; Shawne Merriman (1, 12) and Jerome Collins (5, 144) in ’05; Draft chart points: 3,895.2

Giants get: Eli Manning (1, 1); Draft chart points: 3,000
Cost: Two 1st, One 3rd, and a 5th round pick
Net Cost: One 1st, One 3rd, One 5th

Falcons get: Michael Vick (1, 1); Draft chart points: 3,000

Chargers get: WR-RS Tim Dwight (veteran), LaDainian Tomlinson (1, 5) and Tay Cody (3, 67) in ’01 and Reche Caldwell (2, 48) in ’02; Draft chart points: 2,380
Cost: 1st Round Pick, Next years 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick two years from draft day, Player
Net Cost: 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick, Player

To acquire Sanchez, the Jets traded their first- and second-round choices (17 and 52), plus three marginal players - defensive end Kenyon Coleman, quarterback Brett Ratliff and safety Abram Elam. (This means Mangini has eight former Jets on his roster.) Only
Cost: 1st and 2nd Round Pick and three players.
Net Cost: 2nd Round Pick, Three Players

Then again the Falcons may have screwed up the curve
The Falcons really coveted a receiver in the first round because they were eager to move up from the 27th spot. It was a blockbuster deal. In exchange for getting the sixth pick, Atlanta gave the Browns five -- five! -- draft picks: their 1st- (27th overall), second- (59th) and fourth-round (124th) picks this year and their first- and fourth-round picks in 2012.

Cost: Two 1st, One 2nd, Two 4ths
Net Cost: 1st, 2nd, two 4ths.

Falcons to an extent with Vick and the Giants with Manning. The only time it didn't really work is when the Jets traded for Sanchez and even then they got two pretty good playoff runs out of the guy. More times then not though teams don't pull the trigger on these trade ups, either because a team ahead of them is set on taking the guy they want or the pick is available for trade but the price is to high (either in terms of pick or contract size).

As a reminder the trades are as follows.


Cost: Two 1st, One 3rd, and a 5th round pick
Net Cost: One 1st, One 3rd, One 5th


Cost: 1st Round Pick, Next years 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick two years from draft day, Player
Net Cost: 3rd Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick, Player


Cost: 1st and 2nd Round Pick and three players.
Net Cost: 2nd Round Pick, Three Players

Then again the Falcons may have screwed up the curve

Cost: Two 1st, One 2nd, Two 4ths
Great research and post.. THe biggest difference in the last Falcons trade was the distance they had to move.. The Chargers/Giants deal would probably be the closest approximate cost to move to #3. The whole 'moving to #2' is a little overblown IMO because the Vikings are no risk to take RGIII.

I am so ready for FA and the draft.

Hell yeah me to. Can't come fast enough for me.

Great Stuff DB!...Interesting......

Hell yeah me to. Can't come fast enough for me.

Time drags until April..........

Time drags until April..........


Isn't March 1st the first day of FA? Thats when the fun begins, then the draft a month later.

If the Browns draft RGIII what does everyone feel about trading 1 of our 4th round picks for Colt McCoy, if that was enough for the Browns to trade him? I would be all for it, he is still young and has potential to be good. He came from the Browns who don't have very much talent on offense, so I think he would be more capable with the Skins and the talent we add this off season. He has the mobility that Shanny likes. Then we would have our young starting quarterback plus # 6 overall pick and 6 other selections. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere. Then we could still draft another qb such as my guy Kirk Cousins, to completely re-do our qb situation.

If the Browns draft RGIII what does everyone feel about trading 1 of our 4th round picks for Colt McCoy, if that was enough for the Browns to trade him? I would be all for it, he is still young and has potential to be good. He came from the Browns who don't have very much talent on offense, so I think he would be more capable with the Skins and the talent we add this off season. He has the mobility that Shanny likes. Then we would have our young starting quarterback plus # 6 overall pick and 6 other selections. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere. Then we could still draft another qb such as my guy Kirk Cousins, to completely re-do our qb situation.

No on trading for Colt. If the Browns did draft RGIII (which at this point a lot of what I'm reading suggest they won't) then I would rather either see if Blackmon falls to us and then see how to acquire Tannehill or Foles or trade back and draft Tannehill or Foles.

And I wouldn't worry about the Seahawks drafting Tannehill in a trade back because if the Browns take RGIII and we still need a QB then chances are Flynn is in Seattle.

Still I would be more upset that they didn't pay the price to trade up for RGIII.

Great research and post..

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Great Stuff DB!...Interesting......\

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