T.O.Killa
01-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Are we talking like 11 year old Tebow over 11 year old Manning?
I am talking 21 year old Manning and 21 year old Tebow. Infact I am taking a 21 year old Tebow over a 21 year old Manning and a 21 year old Walter Payton.
IrMitchell
01-09-2012, 02:12 PM
The reality is that there are about 15-18 "Roy Helu" type backs in the NFL. It probably speaks more to how pathetic and slow our skill position players have been that we are wowed by his play. A fair comparison would be an in his prime Jerious Norwood. Would anyone here give up 2nd and 4th round picks for Norwood? Exactly.
Nope, you're wrong. Roy Helu was a special running back in college as well. I like to discredit our players too, don't get me wrong... But you chose the wrong guy.
IrMitchell
01-09-2012, 02:13 PM
Robert Griffin III stats the last four years
TD Passes - 78
INT's - 17
......with a completion percentage of 67.2%, and lets not forget he doesnt really have any all world receivers on that squad................. Just imagine that guy rolling out on bootlegs for the burgandy and gold, and zipping passes to a sober Fred Davis......imagne him pulling it down, and sprinting past the slow OLB that is shadowing him.
He is plenty accurate. Plenty enough for our squad, who has been absolutely laughable the last decade at the position. Finally, we are in a position where it is feasible to go up and get "THE GUY", but people want to roll with, and pardon me while I gag, Matt 7th round phenom Flynn, or another season of turnover machine Rex Grossman? I don't even want Grossman as a backup, I dont want any youngsters on the squad maybe picking up his horrid tendancies. Lets do what it takes to get RG3 in here, and see where it goes.
RG3 is going to be a pro bowler, I don't think anyone is questioning that unless they just haven't watched him play. If Bruce and Mike are too scared too pony up for the 2nd/3rd pick, we're in trouble.
irish
01-09-2012, 02:16 PM
I am talking 21 year old Manning and 21 year old Tebow. Infact I am taking a 21 year old Tebow over a 21 year old Manning and a 21 year old Walter Payton.
I think in yesterday's you saw the best that TT can give you so there isnt more upside. At 21 Manning still had a ton of upside.
artmonkforhallofamein07
01-09-2012, 02:21 PM
I'd take a 21 year old Peyton Manning and sign him to a 20 year deal and be done with the QB situation for a long time. I don't even get where TO Killa is coming from there. TT is an ok QB and a great man. Peyton is a good man and GREAT QB, I don't even get where there is a comparison.
Paintrain
01-09-2012, 02:41 PM
Nope, you're wrong. Roy Helu was a special running back in college as well. I like to discredit our players too, don't get me wrong... But you chose the wrong guy.
Wasn't really trying to discredit him, just saying he's not a player that other teams are drooling over. I think he's a very nice complimentary back but he's not going to be a top 5-10 back in the league. I'd love for him to develop into such, but I'm not sure that's his game.
GMScud
01-09-2012, 03:03 PM
I think in yesterday's you saw the best that TT can give you so there isnt more upside. At 21 Manning still had a ton of upside.
Even if that is his ceiling, 316 passing yards, 3 total TDs, and the highest QBR in a playoff game in 4 years ain't too shabby.
CultBrennan59
01-09-2012, 03:08 PM
I'll take Manning with a bad neck over tebow in the nfl, any. day. of . the . week.
Giantone
01-09-2012, 03:14 PM
Even if that is his ceiling, 316 passing yards, 3 total TDs, and the highest QBR in a playoff game in 4 years ain't too shabby.
Once those stats are put into the right context , no I would'nt take him.
irish
01-09-2012, 03:23 PM
Even if that is his ceiling, 316 passing yards, 3 total TDs, and the highest QBR in a playoff game in 4 years ain't too shabby.
He completed less than 50% of his passes (10/21) and those 3TDs were 3 of the maybe 7 good balls he threw all night. I cant take anything away from him as he did what he had to do to win the game but I'd be surprised if he's starting at the end of next season.