The "Inside Word" on the QB Search


Lotus
01-03-2012, 01:03 PM
Thank you so much, SS! That is very helpful.

12thMan
01-03-2012, 01:06 PM
I think he was saying that if there was a way to not part with this years first AND second round picks, meaning it would cost our first but we'd still have our second.. SS, clarification please?

Yeah, I think you're right. Seemed too good to be true. That said, don't underestimate Dan Snyder's ability to reach deep into the cookie jar. #justsayin

NC_Skins
01-03-2012, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I think you're right. Seemed too good to be true. That said, don't underestimate Dan Snyder's ability to reach deep into the cookie jar. #justsayin

Dan isn't controlling football operations anymore. Just signing the checks. :pimp:

SmootSmack
01-03-2012, 01:20 PM
We don't want to trade our 1st and 2nd for Bradford. Possibly one or the other. More likely this year's 1st plus future high picks. It's tough to know right now because no one knows who is going to be running the Rams

I wouldn't take Jones or Tannehill at #6. But I don't think either falls below 12-15. With QBs though, there's always the possibility someone reaches.

I could end up being totally wrong here. But I liken the Flynn talk to Peppers from a couple of years ago. When just about everyone was linking Julius Peppers to the Redskins, and what did I repeatedly say here? The Redskins had no interest and he wasn't coming here...and he didn't

Lotus
01-03-2012, 01:38 PM
We don't want to trade our 1st and 2nd for Bradford. Possibly one or the other. More likely this year's 1st plus future high picks. It's tough to know right now because no one knows who is going to be running the Rams

I wouldn't take Jones or Tannehill at #6. But I don't think either falls below 12-15. With QBs though, there's always the possibility someone reaches.

I could end up being totally wrong here. But I liken the Flynn talk to Peppers from a couple of years ago. When just about everyone was linking Julius Peppers to the Redskins, and what did I repeatedly say here? The Redskins had no interest and he wasn't coming here...and he didn't

With Jake Locker in mind, if Jones or Tannehill is our guy, I have no problem grabbing him at #6. It would suck to lose our guy worse than it would suck to reach.

skinsguy
01-03-2012, 01:53 PM
My thoughts:

Free Agents: I don't see Kyle Orton being that much of an upgrade over Rex Grossman. He's a journeyman, but I wouldn't mind him being the backup. Kyle can give you a few good games, but honestly, if we're talking transition/backup QBs, I think Rex is good enough for that. I don't know much about Josh Johnson or Brian Hoyer, so I really can't comment on either one of those guys. I'm sure there must be some type of interest for Matt Flynn, but the 'skins might be keeping that hush hush until they see who the other legit bidders are for him and what gets offered. No surprise that there is zero interest in Peyton Manning. Since yesterday's events, I'm thinking Manning may in fact stay with the Colts, assuming he's cleared to play football by the time training camp rolls around.

Trades: Jimmy Clausen - If not much is given up for him, then I think it's a great idea to bring Jimmy in knowing he's going to serve as a backup to whoever is starting, and a guy the Redskins can hopefully develop over a period of time. I don't think he's trash and I kind of questioned (before the season) why the Redskins didn't try to pursue him prior to the start of this season. I suppose with the lockout, the team probably felt the price would be too high for a QB that would not see the field at all this year.

Mark Sanchez - I don't think he leaves NY. If he does, it's because Rex Ryan is fired, and I don't think that will happen, so I think Sanchez stays a Jet. I don't really have any interest in Colt McCoy. For some strange reason, I just get this Patrick Ramsey vibe when I hear about McCoy.

I am 100% on board with getting Sam Bradford, but I'm also curious as to why the Redskins did not make a legitimate move to draft him when they had a chance. I guess they felt Donovan McNabb was the guy at that point and didn't feel it necessary to make a move for a QB.

The Draft: I don't believe the Redskins have a chance at drafting Andrew Luck or RG III. I would be ecstatic if either one landed in Washington, but I don't think it's going to happen. I think both QBs get taken - which could be how we wind up getting Sam Bradford. If there was some magical way that the 'skins could land Bradford and finagle their way into getting Blackmon, I would probably think I have died and gone to Heaven!

Landry Jones and Tannehill: I think between the two I'd take Tannehill, although like Smootsmack has said, I too tend to go back and forth. I think either may not be ready to start from day one and if they do, I just hope Snyder is patient, because I can't see the 'skins winning more than 8 games in their rookie year. However, I might be completely wrong. But, I don't think the Redskins would have to draft either one at #6. As matter of fact, I think they could possibly get Tannehill in the early second round and use their first pick for either Blackmon or Kalil. But, if those guys are gone by #6, the 'skins should trade down and keep building depth. I have confidence they would find a potential franchise guy later in the first or early second.

I don't know anything about Foles, Cousins, or Lindley. I had always questioned why Weeden wasn't talked about more until I realized he was already 28 years old. If we go with a QB out of the draft, I want someone young who if developed into a franchise guy, one that we can hold on to for at least 10 years.

So, I say yes to Sam Bradford, Clausen as a backup ONLY if not much is given up for him, probably yes for Tannehill. I say no to Mark Sanchez, Peyton Manning (I actually think he doesn't play anymore), intrigued by Matt Flynn, and maybe to Landry Jones.

skinsfan69
01-03-2012, 01:55 PM
We don't want to trade our 1st and 2nd for Bradford. Possibly one or the other. More likely this year's 1st plus future high picks. It's tough to know right now because no one knows who is going to be running the Rams

I wouldn't take Jones or Tannehill at #6. But I don't think either falls below 12-15. With QBs though, there's always the possibility someone reaches.

I could end up being totally wrong here. But I liken the Flynn talk to Peppers from a couple of years ago. When just about everyone was linking Julius Peppers to the Redskins, and what did I repeatedly say here? The Redskins had no interest and he wasn't coming here...and he didn't

Isn't Jeff Fischer going to Stl? ? I saw on TV that it's pretty much a done deal. And that's cause they have a QB. But regardless of who takes that job, I just don't see them moving Bradford.

SmootSmack
01-03-2012, 01:59 PM
Isn't Jeff Fischer going to Stl? ? I saw on TV that it's pretty much a done deal. And that's cause they have a QB. But regardless of who takes that job, I just don't see them moving Bradford.

True. Fisher has been linked heavily to the Rams. Also linked to the Dolphins.

12thMan
01-03-2012, 02:01 PM
True. Fisher has been linked heavily to the Rams. Also linked to the Dolphins.

Isn't Indy his top choice? I thought he was very interested in that job too.

redsk1
01-03-2012, 02:04 PM
Anyone familiar w/ Russell Wilson?

I think this guy can play in the NFL and play well. He's projected as a 4th/5th. The knock is his size. He's mobile, shifty, very accurate, and smart.

We could do worse w/ a 4th/5th rounder. Hopefully, we'll take a QB before then though.

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