skinsfaninok
02-22-2012, 10:54 PM
Flynn to get franchise tag?
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Dirtbag59
02-22-2012, 11:13 PM
Flynn to get franchise tag?
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Not because I wanted him but rather him not being a free agent makes getting RGIII just a wee bit harder.
NM Redskin
02-22-2012, 11:27 PM
Report -- Miami Dolphins won't offer Chad Henne new contract - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7600403/report-miami-dolphins-offer-chad-henne-new-contract)
What are some of your guys opinions on Henne? I believe GTripp had some positive things to say about him, which is rare :P. I see him in the Jason Campbell, Orton level of QB. Now that I think about it he might be a better option than Orton, cheaper. maybe higher ceiling too
Dirtbag59
02-22-2012, 11:28 PM
What are some of your guys opinions on Henne? I believe GTripp had some positive things to say about him, which is rare :P. I see him in the Jason Campbell, Orton level of QB. Now that I think about it he might be a better option than Orton, cheaper.
To me Henne is a poor mans Jason Campbell.
GTripp0012
02-22-2012, 11:37 PM
To me Henne is a poor mans Jason Campbell.In what way are they similar? One has had a kind of boring, run-of-the-mill productive career, while the other was good through age 25, and then got injured in a contract year.
Dirtbag59
02-22-2012, 11:45 PM
In what way are they similar? One has had a kind of boring, run-of-the-mill productive career, while the other was good through age 25, and then got injured in a contract year.
Campbell is obviously better (hence the poor mans Jason Campbell) but I guess that they just remind me of each other. Both in terms of their draft day expectations to fans wanting their team to find a replacement.
GTripp0012
02-22-2012, 11:53 PM
Campbell is obviously better (hence the poor mans Jason Campbell) but I guess that they just remind me of each other. Both in terms of their draft day expectations to fans wanting their team to find a replacement.I should throw it out there that I'm studying Campbell's last three years extensively with him set to hit free agency, and will probably do the same with Henne before the end of the month. Campbell shows clear tendencies based on coverage looks that I'm sure coordinators have picked up on, but as long as he can use his legs effectively, Campbell is difficult to stop/scheme against.
The funny thing about Jason Campbell is that he's getting to that point of his career where he's nicked and bruised week to week and isn't the athlete he once was, and he's reaching that point simultaneously with maturation in the pocket in terms of ball security and getting the ball out in timing and rhythm. The funny thing is: this trade off will keep him as a middle of the pack QB overall, although the "film guys" like Cosell are sure to remark that he is an "improved" player, whatever that means.
Henne has had the same down to down inconsistent shown by all young QBs, and as long as he keeps getting reps and keeps improving, I'm not sure we should hold his early career negative plays against him. After all, Campbell (who I believe was a really good fit for Zorn's offense) threw blind a number of times on tape during the 2009 season when he was fooled by the coverage. He hardly ever did that with Oakland.
GTripp0012
02-23-2012, 12:10 AM
And with regards to Henne, if you isolate his passing away from his running, you get a completely different story.
Passing DYAR divided by games started for "successful" QB draft picks (2005-2011)
1. Aaron Rodgers 95.35
2. Matt Ryan 75.55
3. Joe Flacco 42.73
4. Chad Henne 41.03
5. Matthew Stafford 36.24
6. Jay Cutler 33.50
7. Jason Campbell 30.53
8. Kyle Orton 22.91
9. Josh Freeman 21.12
10. Ryan Fitzpatrick 8.87
He had the advantage of sitting his first season, so subjectively, you might want to switch him and Stafford, but he's still one of the best QBs (by passing) picked in the last seven drafts.
GTripp0012
02-23-2012, 12:12 AM
Newton was 38.69 by the same metric this year, for context, and he gets no value for his rushing contributions.
NM Redskin
02-23-2012, 01:27 AM
Hene/Orton would be a nice insurance policy wither we try and trade up for RG3 or try and trade down for Taneihill. It's not assured that either will be there, at the same time not handcuffing us to make a deal so we over pay.