The "Inside Word" on the QB Search


CrazyCanuck
02-07-2012, 05:08 PM
So a $40 million incentive that was likely to be earned this season but wasn't, is credit back to next season, meaning you're $40 million more under next year's cap simply by an incentive not reached in the prior season?

On the flip side, If that player exceeds all expectations, and looks like he could possibly earn those incentives "unlikely to be earned" - and those incentives were spread out throughout the life of the contract, a team could possibly turn those incentives into guaranteed money if they wanted to free up salary cap space for a future season?

Not sure I totally understand your questions so I'll use an example.

A. We give Peyton a $10M incentive if he throws 20 TD passes in 2012. This would be deemed "likely". $10M would count against our 2012 cap. If he failed to throw 20 TDs then we would get the $10M back on our 2013 cap.

B. We give Peyton a $20M incentive if the Skins win the Super Bowl in 2012. This would be deemed "unlikely". Nothing would count against our 2012 cap. If we did win the SB in 2012, then the $20M would come off our 2013 cap.

iRepDMV
02-08-2012, 02:35 AM
Has any one seen the post on Hogs Haven about a guy who ran into Jim Haslett and apparently had the opportunity to discuss the Redskins offseason plans. Sorry I tried to post the link but it wasnt working. Apparently:

-They have no interest in Matt Flynn
-They are not at all impressed with the other QBs in this years draft besides RG3 and Luck
-They are strongly considering trading up with the Rams and have already contacted Jeff Fisher
-The Manning to the Redskins talk is no joke. Bruce Allen apparently has had discussions with Indy organization members.
-Rex Grossman most likely may remain a Redskin.

If someone can properly post the link, it would be much appreciated.

iRepDMV
02-08-2012, 02:38 AM
I just realized I couldnt post a link because i didnt have 10+ post yet lol

iRepDMV
02-08-2012, 02:39 AM
Now im able to post the link haha. Sorry if you guys already seen this post.

I Ran Into Jim Haslett and We Talked QB Draft, Manning, Trading Up - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/7/2783161/i-ran-into-jim-haslett-and-we-talked-qb-draft#storyjump)

diehard
02-08-2012, 03:27 AM
Now im able to post the link haha. Sorry if you guys already seen this post.

I Ran Into Jim Haslett and We Talked QB Draft, Manning, Trading Up - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/7/2783161/i-ran-into-jim-haslett-and-we-talked-qb-draft#storyjump)

One, if I knew Haslett was 20 mins away from me, I would've been there too. But, on a serious note, I'm not sure if I would've spilled the beans in the manner Rodskins did. I would've protected Haslett from his neighborly talk in the form of anonmynity. Shit happens though.

MTK
02-08-2012, 08:54 AM
already posted here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46554-qb-apocalypse-the-seventh-sign-5.html#post883241

skinsguy
02-08-2012, 09:14 AM
Not sure I totally understand your questions so I'll use an example.

A. We give Peyton a $10M incentive if he throws 20 TD passes in 2012. This would be deemed "likely". $10M would count against our 2012 cap. If he failed to throw 20 TDs then we would get the $10M back on our 2013 cap.

B. We give Peyton a $20M incentive if the Skins win the Super Bowl in 2012. This would be deemed "unlikely". Nothing would count against our 2012 cap. If we did win the SB in 2012, then the $20M would come off our 2013 cap.

Gotcha...that makes sense to me.

Higskin
02-08-2012, 09:18 AM
Reference Manning to Skins vs Phins:

Right now Skins are looking at ~94mil against an unknown 2012 cap but everyone is estimating ~$121 - $125mil. Miami is ~ $117mil. Each team gets back an unused portion from 2011, said to be $13.6mil for Skins and $3mil for Phins. The teams have to put aside $5mil for rookies. Also, Solari (NT) was tagged last year. If they didn't get a long term on him and tagged him again it'd be $15 mil right off the cap.

If Manning is going to do an incentive based, where exampled by Schefter on Mike & Mike this morning, say a $10mil start of the season with $5mil starting 8 games and additional $5mil at 16 games - can the Phins really afford Manning?

You'd think besides the above, the Phins would be pretty strapped to do anything in FA as well.

Chief X_Phackter
02-19-2012, 02:05 AM
Get Manning, Get Flynn, Get Foles...fill some other holes and now we're talking...

EARTHQUAKE2689
02-19-2012, 02:53 AM
^^^ That can't be serious.

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