Unlike another veteran who still doesn't seem to realize that he's washed up (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/01/mcnabb-doesnt-sound-ready-to-retire/), I doubt Manning tries to play unless he's 110% confident he can play at a high level.
celts32
02-07-2012, 11:34 AM
How do you figure?
I don't think Tannehill or Cousins will be able to start and win at all in 2012 and then in 2013 either one would be essentially a rookie. So basically any winning we do in the next 2 years would likely be put on Orton's shoulders. Orton would be the 4th best QB in the NFC East. It's not enough of an upgrade for me to feel confident. Maybe locking them into last place was over stating it but how much better is Orton then Grossman? I know he's better but in my opinion he's not enough of an upgrade to pair with a rookie who could be a couple years away.
SBXVII
02-07-2012, 11:36 AM
I often confuse doctors and pool men, too. They are just so similar what with the fact that both doctors and pool men have to endure eight years of education and training on top of their four year Bachelors degrees. Honestly, if you put two up side by side, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference...
and then there's all the bodily fluids they deal with... :vomit:
A human body is mostly water, a pool is mostly water.
All the chemicals they have to prescribe....
Chico23231
02-07-2012, 11:36 AM
NFL would eat up this Peyton to DC move. Goodell would be drooling to Brother vs Brother twice a year especially with Eli winning his second superbowl. You know Snyder is telling Bruce and Shanny to make it happen
mredskins
02-07-2012, 11:44 AM
Unlike another veteran who still doesn't seem to realize that he's washed up (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/01/mcnabb-doesnt-sound-ready-to-retire/), I doubt Manning tries to play unless he's 110% confident he can play at a high level.
That is what I am afraid.
If we can get PM just as a FA and then draft Tannehill then I am cool with that.
I just think if PM comes here we will just be glued to the injury line every week waiting to see if he is going to play.
If I am PM I am going to Bal, AZ, SF, etc... basically a team that is a QB away from the Super Bowl.
Let me also add B-more would be a great landing spot for him. they could keep Flacco and have him learn from PM and PM could get them to the SB. After PM retires Flacco comes back with some great QB coaching. One of the negatives about Flacco is he doesn't have anyone pushing him, PM could do that.
NC_Skins
02-07-2012, 11:54 AM
Unlike another veteran who still doesn't seem to realize that he's washed up (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/01/mcnabb-doesnt-sound-ready-to-retire/),
One of the comments from that McNabb article.
The groundskeepers who will have to replace his divots just sighed..
:laughing- :laughing-
Unlike another veteran who still doesn't seem to realize that he's washed up (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/01/mcnabb-doesnt-sound-ready-to-retire/), I doubt Manning tries to play unless he's 110% confident he can play at a high level.
THAT is not going to sit well with ShadowByte......
Then again...TO can probably get him a tryout.
That is what I am afraid.
If we can get PM just as a FA and then draft Tannehill then I am cool with that.
I just think if PM comes here we will just be glued to the injury line every week waiting to see if he is going to play.
If I am PM I am going to Bal, AZ, SF, etc... basically a team that is a QB away from the Super Bowl.
Let me also add B-more would be a great landing spot for him. they could keep Flacco and have him learn from PM and PM could get them to the SB. After PM retires Flacco comes back with some great QB coaching. One of the negatives about Flacco is he doesn't have anyone pushing him, PM could do that.
I really doubt Flacco would be down with that plan.
mredskins
02-07-2012, 12:03 PM
I really doubt Flacco would be down with that plan.
IT is not up to him. Flacco is not that good. they honestly could get rid of Flacco and say Ed, Ray and Peyton here is your best shot of getting another ring before you guys are done. I say they have 2 years of legit shots at a SB ring.
After that the Ravens start rebuilding but they would would really only need to fill a few holes becasue they have draft so well over the years.
Also I don't know why you love Flacco so much. Even this past summer you argued with him he still had growing to do and I said he has peaked. Well guess what we were both wrong he decreased.
SmootSmack
02-07-2012, 12:08 PM
I don't think Tannehill or Cousins will be able to start and win at all in 2012 and then in 2013 either one would be essentially a rookie. So basically any winning we do in the next 2 years would likely be put on Orton's shoulders. Orton would be the 4th best QB in the NFC East. It's not enough of an upgrade for me to feel confident. Maybe locking them into last place was over stating it but how much better is Orton then Grossman? I know he's better but in my opinion he's not enough of an upgrade to pair with a rookie who could be a couple years away.
So if I'm understanding you right. Manning/Tannehill is better than Orton/Tannehill because with the former we have a better chance of avoiding the division cellar in 2012 and 2013. But really what you're saying is Manning over the next two years is better than Orton over the next two years? Tannehill is kind of irrelevant to your discussion