What is Matt Flynn Worth to the Redskins

For every Kevin Kolb, there is a Jake Delhomme.(He did have some good years before he started throwing picks 5 times a game)

For every Kurt Warner there is a Don Strock.

Or Matt Schaub, Trent Green, Matt Hasselback, Aaron Brooks, Mark Bulger, Mark Brunell, etc. All viable starters who were back ups elsewhere first. Can't generalize.

Guess you can add Brett Favre to the list as well.

^exactly.

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No surprise, but If we really want him..we have some competition for him.

Just can't help but wonder what Flynn would've done against NYG last night. Rodgers did not have a great game at all. No you don't entertain the thought of benching Rodgers but, what's the reason for Rodgers' unimpressive play? Yes he was under pressure and sacked five times. Yes his WRs dropped a few few balls but, an equal amount of passes (if not more) were thrown off target.

Or Matt Schaub, Trent Green, Matt Hasselback, Aaron Brooks, Mark Bulger, Mark Brunell, etc. All viable starters who were back ups elsewhere first. Can't generalize.

At this point, after the lackluster QB play weve had the last 10-15 years, can we afford to be content with a "viable starter"? With flynn, there is less risk of bust than say RGIII, but there is little promise of him entering elite status. I want a top 5-10 Quarterback, and will do what is needed to get that.

Based on 2011 draft a QB in the 1st round is a crap shot Newton, Ponder Gabbert, Locker, & Dalton. Based on there production you would have to say 40% chance of selecting a good QB from day one otherwise it's a project. I'm going to be flip flopping all the way up until the draft is over. If we can get some pieces in FA it would help our rebuilding. We have to offer Flynn a contract even if we are bluffing IMO.

Based on 2011 draft a QB in the 1st round is a crap shot Newton, Ponder Gabbert, Locker, & Dalton. Based on there production you would have to say 40% chance of selecting a good QB from day one otherwise it's a project. I'm going to be flip flopping all the way up until the draft is other. If we can get some pieces in FA it would help our rebuilding. We have to offer Flynn a contract even if we are bluffing IMO.

Good point but, RG3 is a better prospect than all those mentioned except for Newton which he's compares favorably.

Ive meant to post this 2 weeks ago, but ive been way too busy with real life stuff….

Im posting this for those like me that see a lot of similarities in GB’s offense and DC’s offense. 30gut gave a great breakdown between the differences and this adds to his comparison.

http://www.thewarpath.net/873233-post210.html

My opinion was, if Matt Flynn can be successful in GB’s offense then I think he has a high likelihood of finding success in our offense, partly because I view both offenses as very similar. But a couple people, namely GTripp and 30gut, kept saying that the systems are very different, so the argument that Flynn would be good in Kyle’s system because hes been good in GB’s system is flawed.

I went looking for more info about the Redskins system and GB’s system and came across this article by GTripp:

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Of all the stuff I tried to find on the Redskins offense this is probably the most detailed and analytic. I sent him a PM asking if I could post his article and the following:

………I started looking around for the differences between GB’s and DC’s offense mainly because of some things you’ve said in the Matt Flynn thread. Besides both being WCO’s w zone running games you’ve said the 2 offenses are very different. I admit that im completely inept when it comes to judging the differences between offenses, but to me they seem pretty similar. In fact ive always thought, after Houston’s, GB’s offense seemed the most similar to ours.

From your article and some other things ive read it seems that Kyle’s passing philosophy is more risky and vertical then GB’s. It also seems a big part of GB’s offense is to allow for much more improv from the receivers and Rodger’s when plays break down or pockets collapse, whereas exact timing and precision takes on a much greater importance in Kyle’s scheme.

I was wondering if you could touch on what you view as the major differences between the 2 offenses and why you think someone like Flynn would or wouldn’t have success in Kyle’s scheme. Or besides a “superstar” QB like Luck who do you think would have success in Kyle’s offense that may also be obtainable, do you think RGIII or even someone like Henne or McCoy could be successful in Kyle’s system?

Relevant part of GTripp’s response:

"It's not that I do not think Matt Flynn wouldn't be able to handle Kyle's scheme, but it's more that the Green Bay offense is so much more wide open and devastating to defenses with the way it forces you to show your hand before the snap. Kyle's offense, on a lot of his passing plays, requires absolutely no thinking before the snap. You just take it and your eyes go right to the primary receiver and get the ball out as soon as he is open.

Kyle mass protects pretty much anything he does on first and second down for those downfield attacks. Green Bay will sometimes spread the field and force the defense to cover every inch. That allows Green Bay to put defenses in a position where mismatches are inevitable. Where as Washington will use longer developing route combinations to try to move the coverage in order to create a throw.

I don't think any player is really a bad fit for the Kyle Shanahan system: it's not a difficult one to play quarterback in. A lot of the interceptions our quarterbacks throw is just a result of the play design: if you're only putting two receivers in the route and running play action, you're kind of counting on the linebackers being up around the line of scrimmage. There's just no way you can run two receivers where they can beat six defenders in coverage. But I think guys who are experienced passers like Chad Henne with erratic streaks, or a guy who plays a bit erratically in college, like Landry Jones, can find a good home into this system.

Because the system Kyle runs is really pretty limited, those passers who get criticized for being inconsistent decision makers can become more productive players here because we're not asking the quarterback to do anything besides be a tough pocket passer, hang in there, and go play. I don't think Flynn wouldn't be able to execute that system, I think he would, but why get in a bidding war for a guy who won't be able to take the Green Bay system and receivers with him?"

Kyle's system has been simple with Rex in place but was it just as simple in Houston with Schaub? I guess what I'm getting at, would Kyle open it up and make it more complex with a better QB in place?

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I'd like to think any OC worth his weight could flex his system to the talents of his QB.