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skinsfan69 01-12-2012, 04:39 PM The top free agent QB is going to want to make sure that he gets a one year grace period when it comes to acquiring other top tier QB prospects. I seriously doubt that drafting RGIII would sit well with him not to mention it would negate the flexibility that Matt Flynn would give us in the draft to take the BPA.
And make no mistake about it. Matt Flynn is not going to come cheap. Maybe cheap by Peyton Manning/Tom Brady QB standards. Still look at what these unproven but highly touted QB's got.
2007 - Matt Schuab - 6 Years $48 Million - $7 Million Signing Bonus
2009 - Matt Cassell - 6 Years $63 Million - $28 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Kevin Kolb - 5 Years $63 Million - $20 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Ryan Fitzpatrick - 6 Years $59 Million $15 Million Signing Bonus
If any of you think that Flynn would come with a low signing bonus and a $4 million a year cap hit at most then you're nuts.
And this is exactly why we should stay away from Flynn. As I've said, let's go draft our own guy and start him day one, like Cincy and Carolina did.
skinsfan69 01-12-2012, 04:42 PM Truthfully, with as stupid as some owners/GMs are, it wouldn't surprise me to see anything. Teams are so QB desperate, they probably will pay premium money. Hell, they paid $50 mil guaranteed to Bradford who'd never took a snap in the NFL.
But that was under the old CBA and he was a QB that was the first pick of the draft. If it was under the new rules Bradford wouldn't have received that kind of money. He would've probably gotten 20 mil guaranteed, like Newton did. But I do agree with you, teams are hard up for top QB play and someone's going to overpay for Flynn's services, just like Az overpaid for Kolb.
SirClintonPortis 01-12-2012, 05:46 PM But that was under the old CBA and he was a QB that was the first pick of the draft. If it was under the new rules Bradford wouldn't have received that kind of money. He would've probably gotten 20 mil guaranteed, like Newton did. But I do agree with you, teams are hard up for top QB play and someone's going to overpay for Flynn's services, just like Az overpaid for Kolb.
Yeah, just look at what Charlie Whitehurst fetched draft-pick wise.
skinsguy 01-12-2012, 05:55 PM Yup. And that FA can't be Rex, because he gives us no leverage
As much as I don't like your idea of Orton, he would bring in more leverage than Rex at this point and he's probably the least expensive contingency plan.
CultBrennan59 01-12-2012, 06:09 PM I think I, along with the rest of us, are missing the key fact about Flynn. We all saw his TD performances against NE and the 6 TD's against the Lions. And after evaluations, the majority of us are saying 'oh thats all his receiver's, his talent, his scheme.' But the thing we seem to be missing is that he is Smart enought to get it to the right guy, the open guy, and he is Proven that he can grasp and get a hold of an offense and make the right decision.
Who knows how good he Could be if he gets a hold of the Shanahan's offense, and gets a great playmaking WR...
Dirtbag59 01-12-2012, 06:34 PM Yeah, just look at what Charlie Whitehurst fetched draft-pick wise.
Hey hey hey. Leave Charlie out of this.
Paintrain 01-12-2012, 07:28 PM I think I, along with the rest of us, are missing the key fact about Flynn. We all saw his TD performances against NE and the 6 TD's against the Lions. And after evaluations, the majority of us are saying 'oh thats all his receiver's, his talent, his scheme.' But the thing we seem to be missing is that he is Smart enought to get it to the right guy, the open guy, and he is Proven that he can grasp and get a hold of an offense and make the right decision.
Who knows how good he Could be if he gets a hold of the Shanahan's offense, and gets a great playmaking WR...
And others are missing another key fact about him.. He has 9 TD and 7 turnovers (5 INT, 2 fumbles lost). If you take away his 'magical' performance he has 3 TD and 4 turnovers (3 INT, 1 FL) so there is significant question as to how special of a QB he is, getting to the right guy and making the right decision. Not to say that he isn't but there have been tons of QB who have played one great game and it be an aberration. He really hasn't proven a thing.
mooby 01-12-2012, 07:55 PM And others are missing another key fact about him.. He has 9 TD and 7 turnovers (5 INT, 2 fumbles lost). If you take away his 'magical' performance he has 3 TD and 4 turnovers (3 INT, 1 FL) so there is significant question as to how special of a QB he is, getting to the right guy and making the right decision. Not to say that he isn't but there have been tons of QB who have played one great game and it be an aberration. He really hasn't proven a thing.
I'll second this. And I'll also second that post above about backup qb's getting massive paydays after teams spending exorbitant amounts just to get them. Just say no to Flynn.
Chief X_Phackter 01-12-2012, 07:56 PM And others are missing another key fact about him.. He has 9 TD and 7 turnovers (5 INT, 2 fumbles lost). If you take away his 'magical' performance he has 3 TD and 4 turnovers (3 INT, 1 FL) so there is significant question as to how special of a QB he is, getting to the right guy and making the right decision. Not to say that he isn't but there have been tons of QB who have played one great game and it be an aberration. He really hasn't proven a thing.
Agreed, see Kevin Kolb and all he accomplished this year after all the hoopla about him last year.
CultBrennan59 01-12-2012, 08:33 PM For every Kevin Kolb, there is a Jake Delhomme.(He did have some good years before he started throwing picks 5 times a game)
For every Kurt Warner there is a Don Strock.
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