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SmootSmack 01-08-2012, 12:43 PM I don't know if it will be Flynn but we have to sign a QB in the FA period. That way if we decide to trade up in the draft teams can't demand the world. We are going to pay alot to trade up, but it will be alot more if we don't have a contingency plan.
Yup. And that FA can't be Rex, because he gives us no leverage
redsk1 01-12-2012, 01:37 PM Big assumption but assuming MS likes Flynn, I wouldn't be opposed to offering him a contract and using a high draft pick on a QB. I don't think Matt Flynn will get huge money. Let's look who needs a QB:
Cleveland- Will most likely draft one
Miami- Just went thru several seasons w/ Henne, are they willing to gamble again w/ Flynn?
Seattle-Maybe
So you get Flynn & Griffin/Tannehill/Foles/or anyone else MS likes.
Flynn Starts year 1. There's a few scenarios:
1. Flynn is very good. This is the best scenario. Now you have a good problem, a good starter and a legit trade piece.
2. Flynn is bad. You've got a young QB ready to take over.
3. Flynn is mediocre. You've still got a guy ready to take over.
We've got some money to play w/. Don't break the bank but it's worth the discussion and I'm sure they've had it.
We're assuming the Shanahan think highly enough of Flynn.
skinsfan69 01-12-2012, 01:41 PM You mean apart from athleticism, mobility, throwing velocity, deep ball accuracy, and ability to make plays and throw on the run?
LOL....other than that they're pretty much the same guy!
Lotus 01-12-2012, 01:48 PM I don't know if it will be Flynn but we have to sign a QB in the FA period. That way if we decide to trade up in the draft teams can't demand the world. We are going to pay alot to trade up, but it will be alot more if we don't have a contingency plan.
But...but...we have Beck already. :)
chrisl13 01-12-2012, 03:01 PM Big assumption but assuming MS likes Flynn, I wouldn't be opposed to offering him a contract and using a high draft pick on a QB. I don't think Matt Flynn will get huge money. Let's look who needs a QB:
Cleveland- Will most likely draft one
Miami- Just went thru several seasons w/ Henne, are they willing to gamble again w/ Flynn?
Seattle-Maybe
So you get Flynn & Griffin/Tannehill/Foles/or anyone else MS likes.
Flynn Starts year 1. There's a few scenarios:
1. Flynn is very good. This is the best scenario. Now you have a good problem, a good starter and a legit trade piece.
2. Flynn is bad. You've got a young QB ready to take over.
3. Flynn is mediocre. You've still got a guy ready to take over.
We've got some money to play w/. Don't break the bank but it's worth the discussion and I'm sure they've had it.
We're assuming the Shanahan think highly enough of Flynn.
You think if we found a way to get Flynn and Griffin, and Flynn does well, we would really trade Griffin?
Dirtbag59 01-12-2012, 03:20 PM You think if we found a way to get Flynn and Griffin, and Flynn does well, we would really trade Griffin?
The top free agent QB is going to want to make sure that he gets a one year grace period when it comes to acquiring other top tier QB prospects. I seriously doubt that drafting RGIII would sit well with him not to mention it would negate the flexibility that Matt Flynn would give us in the draft to take the BPA.
And make no mistake about it. Matt Flynn is not going to come cheap. Maybe cheap by Peyton Manning/Tom Brady QB standards. Still look at what these unproven but highly touted QB's got.
2007 - Matt Schuab - 6 Years $48 Million - $7 Million Signing Bonus
2009 - Matt Cassell - 6 Years $63 Million - $28 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Kevin Kolb - 5 Years $63 Million - $20 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Ryan Fitzpatrick - 6 Years $59 Million $15 Million Signing Bonus
If any of you think that Flynn would come with a low signing bonus and a $4 million a year cap hit at most then you're nuts.
redsk1 01-12-2012, 03:28 PM You think if we found a way to get Flynn and Griffin, and Flynn does well, we would really trade Griffin?
We would have the option of trading either Flynn or Griffin. If Flynn came in and played very well, we would then have options. One option would be to keep Flynn and trade Griffin. Of course, if MS thought highly enough of Griffin after one year, he would have the option of trading Flynn. Having two QB's gives us a better shot to find one good one and gives us more options down the road.
Assuming we like Flynn, I'm all for it.
NC_Skins 01-12-2012, 03:34 PM And make no mistake about it. Matt Flynn is not going to come cheap. Maybe cheap by Peyton Manning/Tom Brady QB standards. Still look at what these unproven but highly touted QB's got.
2007 - Matt Schuab - 6 Years $48 Million - $7 Million Signing Bonus
2009 - Matt Cassell - 6 Years $63 Million - $28 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Kevin Kolb - 5 Years $63 Million - $20 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Ryan Fitzpatrick - 6 Years $59 Million $15 Million Signing Bonus
If any of you think that Flynn would come with a low signing bonus and a $4 million a year cap hit at most then you're nuts.
Don't think you can compare Flynn to these guys those. Schaub and Kolb were both higher round picks with higher grades on their potential/skills. Cassell and Fitzpatrick played well for more than just 2 games. They did it for a whole season.
redsk1 01-12-2012, 03:36 PM The top free agent QB is going to want to make sure that he gets a one year grace period when it comes to acquiring other top tier QB prospects. I seriously doubt that drafting RGIII would sit well with him not to mention it would negate the flexibility that Matt Flynn would give us in the draft to take the BPA.
And make no mistake about it. Matt Flynn is not going to come cheap. Maybe cheap by Peyton Manning/Tom Brady QB standards. Still look at what these unproven but highly touted QB's got.
2007 - Matt Schuab - 6 Years $48 Million - $7 Million Signing Bonus
2009 - Matt Cassell - 6 Years $63 Million - $28 Million Signing Bonus
2011 - Ryan Fitzpatrick - 6 Years $59 Million $15 Million Signing Bonus
If any of you think that Flynn would come with a low signing bonus and a $4 million a year cap hit at most then you're nuts.
I'm not sure he's going to get that type of money, as those 3 above. Flynn has started 2 games, I believe. The 3 above all had 1 season + in starts. Flynn is a bit of an unknown.
I'm not sure I see him getting over 25-30 million. It wouldn't totalling surprise me though. I guess it depends what the scouts see in him. I just don't see that much demand.
NC_Skins 01-12-2012, 03:57 PM Truthfully, with as stupid as some owners/GMs are, it wouldn't surprise me to see anything. Teams are so QB desperate, they probably will pay premium money. Hell, they paid $50 mil guaranteed to Bradford who'd never took a snap in the NFL.
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