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skinsguy 01-02-2012, 03:34 PM The Redskins could still pick up Matt Flynn and draft a QB. The only question would be, having Flynn on board means moving up to draft someone like RG III or moving down to get someone like Jones or Tannehill? I think it would be the latter.
SkinzWin 01-02-2012, 03:40 PM The Redskins could still pick up Matt Flynn and draft a QB. The only question would be, having Flynn on board means moving up to draft someone like RG III or moving down to get someone like Jones or Tannehill? I think it would be the latter.
I think that situation would have to be the latter as well...
CrustyRedskin 01-02-2012, 03:56 PM Id rather have Errol Flynn.
mlmpetert 01-02-2012, 04:07 PM I didn't see him play, but I'd prefer to trade for flynn (if he is good) over reaching for a qb (if we don't believe in someone). Trust our scouting. Whoever we think is best we give the first round pick up for. I'd guess it would be flynn. Word in the preseason this year was flynn was playing even better than rodgers.
I hope and think the Skins stay away from Flynn. I could see him playing for the Jets though and maybe Sanchez is reunited with Pete Carol in a three way deal.
These are the types of things that drive me crazy. Flynn is a FA. No one has to trade for him.
And in my opinion thats what makes Flynn so valuable; not only could he be a good qb, but the opportunity cost to get him is existentially zero. With Luck and RGIII it will cost us at a bare minimum 1 draft pick but in reality multiple draft picks and/or trading players like Orapko/T. Williams/Davis. If we sign Matt Flynn all it will cost us is Danny's money (inconsequential to me) and cap space which depending on the deal could also be relatively inconsequential.
My thoughts are RGIII or Luck may be much better qb prospects then Flynn, however, do you believe that the cost in the loss of 6th overall pick plus trading additional picks and/or players to get either of them will be more beneficial to the team then not having to trade anything and simply adding Flynn? Trading for a player is entirely different and more costly then signing a player through FA. In fact trading picks and/or players to move up in the draft is nearly identical as trading for a player on another team.
12thMan 01-02-2012, 04:30 PM If you guys read my post, I never said Flynn would be traded. I said I could see him playing for the Jets and Seattle would acquire Sanchez via trade.
The third team, which I did misstate, was that I'm hoping the Redskins stay away from Flynn altogether.
That Guy 01-02-2012, 04:31 PM These are the types of things that drive me crazy. Flynn is a FA. No one has to trade for him.
And in my opinion thats what makes Flynn so valuable; not only could he be a good qb, but the opportunity cost to get him is existentially zero. With Luck and RGIII it will cost us at a bare minimum 1 draft pick but in reality multiple draft picks and/or trading players like Orapko/T. Williams/Davis. If we sign Matt Flynn all it will cost us is Danny's money (inconsequential to me) and cap space which depending on the deal could also be relatively inconsequential.
My thoughts are RGIII or Luck may be much better qb prospects then Flynn, however, do you believe that the cost in the loss of 6th overall pick plus trading additional picks and/or players to get either of them will be more beneficial to the team then not having to trade anything and simply adding Flynn? Trading for a player is entirely different and more costly then signing a player through FA. In fact trading picks and/or players to move up in the draft is nearly identical as trading for a player on another team.
I think this is the key point. If flynn's the guy, we still have two picks in the first 2 rounds (potential instant starters).
so if we need a CB, QB, OT, and WR 2 high picks won't cover all 4. especially if you feel like we need safety help or a young ILB.
best FAs for us could be flynn, grimes (or rogers :P), one of the MANY FA WRs (bowe wallace etc), and grubbs at OG. you could take 0-4 or those and draft 2 guys (one of which could be blackmon, RGIII, claiborne, kalil - one will be available at #6).
If you traded with cinncy you'd be able to get tannehill and a CB (like jenkins) at 19 and 24.
for cheap FAs, I'd definately grab 2-3 safeties at the $1mill/year range and see if we can upgrade doughty and gomes. I'd do the same for ILB and/or look at the 3rd and 4th round as a place to draft there, assuming we fill at least 2 needs in FA.
I kinda think the #2 pick should be a new RT, and a FA WR is going to be better than drafting one since SOO many are available this year and its the easiest way to save a pick. grimes is a great CB, but I bet he and rogers get bigger contracts than we'd want to give - we can either pay one of them and draft a QB or pay a QB and take claiborne. Grubbs is just a good buy if we cann swing it, but he wouldn't alleviate the need at RT and we probably won't be drafting a good OG unless we get lucky in the 3rd.
that's kinda what i'm thinking, not that it really matters ;).
NYCskinfan82 01-02-2012, 04:35 PM Id rather have Errol Flynn.
LMAO :laughing2
Shadowbyte 01-02-2012, 05:27 PM LOL! Please put the crack pipe down. McNabb is finished. That's why Philadelphia was willing to give him up to a division opponent.
your right, their record and playoff wins since he left proves he was the one holding them back. Mcnabb is much better than Rex. He passes for more yards, threw less ints and defeated better teams. Those facts cant be debated.
SirClintonPortis 01-02-2012, 05:58 PM your right, their record and playoff wins since he left proves he was the one holding them back. Mcnabb is much better than Rex. He passes for more yards, threw less ints and defeated better teams. Those facts cant be debated.
The Eagles have maintained a similar level of production after the departure of McNabb. Why any QB take should excessive credit or blame for another part of their team's fall from greatness is beyond me, but you continue to engage in that misattribution by using the stat of wins over looking at yards per game or passing touchdowns.
Hence, Andy Reid doesn't have to concern himself with his quarterback. Out of all the problems going for the Eagles, the starting quarterback is the least of his worries.
McNabb only threw for 3377 while Grossman threw for 3151, but Grossman had 14 fewer attempts and ten fewer completions. Most of McNabb's wins for have awful stat lines(every win except Tennessee), and he too had a 10-game interception throwing streak last season.
skinsguy 01-02-2012, 06:43 PM your right, their record and playoff wins since he left proves he was the one holding them back. Mcnabb is much better than Rex. He passes for more yards, threw less ints and defeated better teams. Those facts cant be debated.
And what exactly is Donovan McNabb's record since leaving the Eagles? I'm sorry, what was that? I can't seem to hear you, must have a bad connection. What? You know, if I'm THAT big of a Donovan McNabb fan, I think I'd just follow him to the team he's currently on and start rooting for them.....oh wait....that's right, he doesn't have a team! Because he was cut midway through the season. Certainly sounds like a strong case for McNabb over Grossman....lol!
What CAN'T be debated is the fact that neither Grossman NOR McNabb are or was the right choice for the Redskins and their future. Live with it.
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