Buy or Sell?

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over the mountain
12-28-2011, 01:57 PM
1) Id def kick the tires on D Jackson but if he wont budge from wanting the bulk of his guaranteed money up front then you run away. That has fat albert part 2 written all over it. We should never ever ever ever give a player a front loaded contract.

2) The bears did forte dirty imo. I know its a business. Forte wanted to be extended from his rookie contract, given guarantees he would make some decent coin in the last year of his rookie contract in case he blew a knee out. Bears wanted to hold out, make him play thru his final year then make a decision. Bears players wanted him extended.

Id pass on forte, i wouldnt offer a significant contract to any runningback past 3-4 years in the league. just a rotating door position imo, rotate every couple years.

3) Cant make an informed decision until eveyrhting plays out but RG3 would make this franchise a ton of money and restore alot of hype/hope that I dont think this fanbase has. We havent had an electric offensive player since . .i dont think we have ever had a truly electric offensive player.

4) I give KS alot more credit i suppose than others. He is working with crap, a crap QB, a crap OL, a bunch of late round or UFA rookie runningbacks and castoff wide receivers . . and yet the offense still puts up a decent showing. Have we forgotten just how dull and ineffective our offense has been the past decade? Checkdowns and 2 yard runs and a cloud of dirt was our MO for so long. Everyone was bitching and moaning for a modern offense for years, to stretch the field, down field passing attack, 3 or 4 wide, etc and we finally got one with this coaching staff. KS has devised an actual passing game with utter crap for talent. I cant understand the hate for KS, really cant.

Player_HTTR
12-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Its a Fire Sale, everything must go.

That Guy
12-28-2011, 02:48 PM
two high 1st would be great, it just depends what they want (of course), but i'd look into that.

Giantone
12-28-2011, 02:55 PM
1. Sell. I don't see D Jax as a reliable #1 WR. He's an occasional playmaker but I can't count on him to be guy

2. Sell. Two months ago I would have said buy. Even with Hightower's injury. And even with Forte's injury. But that's because I didn't know how much of a workload Helu can handle. And he can handle more than I expected. Bears should do whatever it takes to keep him.

3. On the fence. Probably sell though.

4. Not even worth responding to


......this.

diehard
12-28-2011, 02:56 PM
If Norv gets fired, he will end up where came from Dallas. Garrett is currently the coach and OC and he needs help, Norv in Dallas is a marriage made in heaven.

Makes sense.

Brody81
12-28-2011, 03:13 PM
Really?? Norv Turner? Who is this guy?

GTripp0012
12-28-2011, 03:19 PM
I would not make a competitive offer for any of the free agent receivers. I would either trade for a WR who fits our system, such as Johnnie Knox, or draft a receiver who fits our system. There's a lot of good receivers out there in free agency but the only one who really fits what we want to do with our receivers is Vincent Jackson. And he may not be much of a value.

DeSean Jackson isn't a fit here, but he would have been nice to have four years ago when having a receiver of his caliber was the difference between making and missing the playoffs.

The problem with Forte is that the Bears have to put the franchise tag on him to trade him, and that plays with what we can do with our salary cap, especially since we're likely to use our franchise tag this season. Forte on the open market would probably be too expensive, but I'd take a look. He's only 26.

I am not really sure what the third overall pick would get us that we need. Packaging the 3rd and 6th/7th picks are likely more than enough to go up and get Robert Griffin, but not likely enough to get Luck. So I would pass.

12thMan
12-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Can I add a buy or sell?

Adrian Peterson won't be the same dominant running back after tearing his ACL/MCL.

MTK
12-28-2011, 03:44 PM
I wouldn't write off AP.

I could see him being a little "off" in 2012, but getting back pretty damn close to his prior self in 2013.

mooby
12-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Sell on DeSean Jackson. I can't figure out why we as fans have a "couple years and forget" mentality when it comes to free agents who are just big names looking for a payday. D.Jax, D.Bowe, I mean really why do we need to keep chasing big names from other teams instead of growing our own big names?

Sell on Matt Forte. Really? We get some good young talent here and now people are proposing ideas of bringing in big name running backs coming off horrible knee injuries?

Maybe on the Vikes thing. It depends on a few things really. First off, the Rams would have to have the #1 pick and be open to trading it. Second off, both Luck and RG3 would have to be available so we have a backup plan. Maybe then I think about getting the Vikes pick to probably be used as more ammo to move up.

And no on the Kyle S. to Chargers bs. We're not gonna get anywhere if we keep changing offensive coordinators. Why don't we give Kyle S. some talent at qb before we judge him?

And just in case 12th decides to do a buy or sell on AP, I'd say sell on that too. See #2 for reasoning.

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