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Dirtbag59 12-30-2011, 02:39 AM Well apparently we finally have an idea of the asking price. Per Adam S.
Q: If the St. Louis Rams "win" the first overall pick, should they draft Andrew Luck or trade that pick away and stick with Sam Bradford?
-- Jimmy (Missouri)
A: One of the great questions of the offseason, Jimmy, and one that will be in play every day if the Indianapolis Colts beat the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday and St. Louis loses to the San Francisco 49ers. My early read on it is that St. Louis would wind up trading the No. 1 overall pick for a bounty of picks -- my guess is three first-round picks and two second-round picks, which by the way, also happens to be the exact price the Colts were asking and could have gotten for the John Elway pick in 1983 before Robert Irsay made a deal on his own without his general manager, Ernie Accorsi. So assuming the Rams could get a bounty of picks -- and they can -- then that would be my guess as to the route they'd go. They'd use all those picks to surround Sam Bradford with the type of supporting cast he hasn't had the past two seasons. Guess we'll find out Sunday whether this is the question that will be asked every day until April.
So with that said how comfortable would you be with three first round picks and two 2nd round picks in exchange for Luck? In a sense thats trading Williams, Orakpo, Kerrigan, Devin Thomas, and Jarvis Jenkins for a guy you expect to be the next Peyton Manning.
SkinItup 12-30-2011, 02:45 AM if youre looking at potential, you need to compare their potential now vs. the potential that sanchez had when he was in college. otherwise you arent comparing apples ot apples. Other than Luck, i dont think any of the others will come close to the level of success that sanchez has already had. you also have to consider how unbalanced the jets offense is.
That's bad logic. You compare what you see Sanchez ceiling to be to the ceiling of the draftee. You just have a better idea of Sanchez because he has actually played in the nfl.
Sanchez would be an upgrade for us, but not much of one. He plays with two good wr (maybe the best 1 and 2 wr combo in the league) and still can't do much. What will he do with Moss and Gaffney?
GTripp0012 12-30-2011, 02:59 AM Case in point trading up: the Jets traded up to get Sanchez but don't you think they would have been better off drafting Freeman and keeping the picks they traded?That would be an understatement at this point. Freeman won't turn 24 for a month and he's already more accomplished than Sanchez as a pro passer.
Same thing with Eli Manning/Philip Rivers.
diehard 12-30-2011, 07:24 AM Well apparently we finally have an idea of the asking price. Per Adam S.
So with that said how comfortable would you be with three first round picks and two 2nd round picks in exchange for Luck? In a sense thats trading Williams, Orakpo, Kerrigan, Devin Thomas, and Jarvis Jenkins for a guy you expect to be the next Peyton Manning.
That's keeping things in perspective, good and bad.
SkinzWin 12-30-2011, 08:46 AM Well apparently we finally have an idea of the asking price. Per Adam S.
So with that said how comfortable would you be with three first round picks and two 2nd round picks in exchange for Luck? In a sense thats trading Williams, Orakpo, Kerrigan, Devin Thomas, and Jarvis Jenkins for a guy you expect to be the next Peyton Manning.
Or how about saying you are trading Fred Davis instead of Devin Thomas?
SmootSmack 12-30-2011, 09:12 AM It's off of potential. I'll take flynn who showed he's been great in one start than Sanchez whose running game, OL, WR's, and Defense have taken him to all those wins in the playoffs. Sanchez has been in the league in 3 years, and hasn't showed me anything that makes me go, 'he's a great qb that i'd want on my team.' No no. And the Rookies are on upside/potential.
I think people are putting way too much into one good game Flynn has had. I hope he get significant playing time this weekend and let's see what he does.
SmootSmack 12-30-2011, 09:14 AM That's bad logic. You compare what you see Sanchez ceiling to be to the ceiling of the draftee. You just have a better idea of Sanchez because he has actually played in the nfl.
Sanchez would be an upgrade for us, but not much of one. He plays with two good wr (maybe the best 1 and 2 wr combo in the league) and still can't do much. What will he do with Moss and Gaffney?
The best 1 and 2 WR in the league? I don't know about that. Holmes is solid but he's constantly getting double teamed because Plax, who hadn't played football in over 2 years, has shown little to no ability to get any separation though he has improved. They miss Braylon, a healthy Braylon.
celts32 12-30-2011, 10:50 AM 2nd round pick Brian Brohm was expunged from the Packers instead of Flynn precisely because Flynn performed better than Brohm, draft pick status be damned.
All that tells me is that Brohm was a bust. Not sure being better then brohm makes him a franchise QB.
30gut 12-30-2011, 11:46 AM That would be an understatement at this point. Freeman won't turn 24 for a month and he's already more accomplished than Sanchez as a pro passer.
Same thing with Eli Manning/Philip Rivers.Yet people seem to be ready, no demanding that we trade (1st round draft picks) the most valueable resources on any team especially for a rebuilding team, for a pick that may or may not even prove to be the best QB in their draft class.
SkinzWin 12-30-2011, 02:06 PM Yet people seem to be ready, no demanding that we trade (1st round draft picks) the most valueable resources on any team especially for a rebuilding team, for a pick that may or may not even prove to be the best QB in their draft class.
I'll take my chances instead of continuing this legacy:
Heath Shuler
Gus Frerotte
Trent Green
Brad Johnson
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
John Beck
Rex Grossman
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