30gut
12-29-2011, 05:17 PM
Imo the draft is about probability as much as it is about evaluation.
Anytime you pass/give away a pick or multiple picks to make 1 pick you're reducing the opportunities to improve your team or a acquire a great player.
In short 4 chances are better then 1 chance.
Unless of course Luck will be the last great QB prospect ever.
Case in point trading up: the Jets traded up to get Sanchez but don't you think they would have been better off drafting Freeman and keeping the picks they traded?
It doesn't make sense to trade picks for Luck or anyother draft pick unless you believe in that player is all you need to win the Super Bowl.
CultBrennan59
12-29-2011, 05:23 PM
if youre looking at potential, you need to compare their potential now vs. the potential that sanchez had when he was in college. otherwise you arent comparing apples ot apples. Other than Luck, i dont think any of the others will come close to the level of success that sanchez has already had. you also have to consider how unbalanced the jets offense is.
Sanchez was at USC for 1 1/2 years as a starter (total). Some of these guys have started in College for atleast 2 years to the max of all 4 years. Some of these guys had little to no talent around them. Sanchez played at USC with great OLineman, Great defenses, and Great receivers (sound familiar) just like he does with the Jets. Kellen moore has had some good players around him, but he's been smart and consistent, this year he lost a lot of his weapons and is still consistent. Nick Foles has an awful team around him, with only one good WR. Tannehill--who I don't like, but still has potential--has a good WR and RB, and a solid defense, but hasn't played but 2 years, he's more athletic than sanchez and could or could not be better than him, I'd rather get a guy who has unknown potential over a guy whos been good or medicore on great teams than bring him here to this team that is poor.
NC_Skins
12-29-2011, 05:46 PM
What if you could, and listen this is a longshot I know, but what if you could trade for Luck without giving up your first round pick in 2012. The Rams are known to be in need of an LT to protect their QB and a 4-3 DE to help Chris Long.
So Trent Williams, Brian Orakpo, and some later year first round picks for Luck at #1. At #7 you can maybe move down a bit and get someone like Reiff or even Luck's Stanford teammate Jonathan Martin to be your LT. Don't know who would replace Orakpo.
I'd do this in a heartbeat. TW is one toke away from a years suspension, and play wasn't any worse when he was absent. Orakpo would definitely be the bigger loss of the two.
celts32
12-29-2011, 05:47 PM
I have a hard time buying Flynn's potential. He was a 7th round draft pick for a reason. I don't see how a couple years on green bays bench and one good performance filling in has catipulted him into being a great prospect. Everyone wants to throw Brady in your face when talking about late round QB's like Flynn, but Brady is the exception not the rule.
I would not mind bringing Flynn to camp next year but I sure as heck don't want to give him a big contract and make him the starter...
Paintrain
12-29-2011, 05:49 PM
I really see Luck being a Redskin come april.. I think we give up what we need to get to number 1
If the Rams end up at #1 I think that's a virtual lock and it will be expensive. However, if the Colts end up at #1 we're going to have to make a move for RGIII cause the Colts won't budge.
SirClintonPortis
12-29-2011, 06:15 PM
I have a hard time buying Flynn's potential. He was a 7th round draft pick for a reason. I don't see how a couple years on green bays bench and one good performance filling in has catipulted him into being a great prospect. Everyone wants to throw Brady in your face when talking about late round QB's like Flynn, but Brady is the exception not the rule.
I would not mind bringing Flynn to camp next year but I sure as heck don't want to give him a big contract and make him the starter...
2nd round pick Brian Brohm was expunged from the Packers instead of Flynn precisely because Flynn performed better than Brohm, draft pick status be damned.
Ruhskins
12-30-2011, 12:34 AM
2nd round pick Brian Brohm was expunged from the Packers instead of Flynn precisely because Flynn performed better than Brohm, draft pick status be damned.
I could be wrong, but Flynn looks a lot like Kolb. Looked good in limited action, but may not be that great in the long run.
Too early to give up on Kolb or label him a bust. He had no offseason there in AZ.
SkinItup
12-30-2011, 02:31 AM
Well yeah but I see Blackmon being ready (or even Claiborne, Reiff)
So I'll take Tannehill (even if he's not fully ready in 2012) and a guy who I think is ready vs. only RG3
That really isn't a fair comparison. We would have RG3 and a 2nd round Pick too like Kendall Wright