Redskins vs Vikings gameday thread

The Vikings obviously watched film of when the Redskins played Carolina. In order to execute that option play, they had to have seen Washington's inability to stop it against the Panthers. But....they didn't call the play until after Ponder was knocked out of the game.

Yep, like I mentioned in another thread, lack of adjustment against a scrambling QB, drives me ****ing nuts!!

Yep, like I mentioned in another thread, lack of adjustment against a scrambling QB, drives me ****ing nuts!!

There's only one way to contain a scrambling quarterback and it's spying him with an inside LB. Either Riley or Fletcher could have contained Webb yesterday, just like they could have spied Cam Newton earlier this season. When an NFL defense can't stop a college play like the old option play, then it falls on the defensive coordinator. After the defense saw the option the first time, Haslett should have had London Fletcher or Perry Riley spy the QB. That's how you stop that play. That's also how you keep a QB from killing you with his legs.

There's only one way to contain a scrambling quarterback and it's spying him with an inside LB. Either Riley or Fletcher could have contained Webb yesterday, just like they could have spied Cam Newton earlier this season. When an NFL defense can't stop a college play like the old option play, then it falls on the defensive coordinator. After the defense saw the option the first time, Haslett should have had London Fletcher or Perry Riley spy the QB. That's how you stop that play. That's also how you keep a QB from killing you with his legs.

EXACTLY!! Just the way Ritchie Petitbone used to do with Randall Cunningham, he adjusted to the QB in place and did a masterful job of neutralizing it. Haslett has had two years to figure that out and not once has he done that, that's why I'm pissed. It's the same crap over and over with scrambling QB's.

There's only one way to contain a scrambling quarterback and it's spying him with an inside LB. Either Riley or Fletcher could have contained Webb yesterday, just like they could have spied Cam Newton earlier this season. When an NFL defense can't stop a college play like the old option play, then it falls on the defensive coordinator. After the defense saw the option the first time, Haslett should have had London Fletcher or Perry Riley spy the QB. That's how you stop that play. That's also how you keep a QB from killing you with his legs.With a QB spy though, you have to be willing to rush just three guys at the quarterback and live with the consequences of that. And beyond that, that spy would have had to be Orakpo or Kerrigan because Fletcher and Riley already have man to man responsibility.

If our secondary had given up yards in chunks because we didn't want to get beat by Joe Webbs legs, then while you may be "forcing him to beat you with his arm", you are also putting an awful burden on your secondary to cover receivers for a length of time they aren't designed to do.

The QB spy is dump. Rush all four and trust them to not get owned by the opposing OL. Or if you can't keep Webb in the pocket rushing four, then bring the blitzes and try to end the play early. Don't spy him and make it easy on him simply because he has good legs.

With a QB spy though, you have to be willing to rush just three guys at the quarterback and live with the consequences of that. And beyond that, that spy would have had to be Orakpo or Kerrigan because Fletcher and Riley already have man to man responsibility.

If our secondary had given up yards in chunks because we didn't want to get beat by Joe Webbs legs, then while you may be "forcing him to beat you with his arm", you are also putting an awful burden on your secondary to cover receivers for a length of time they aren't designed to do.

The QB spy is dump. Rush all four and trust them to not get owned by the opposing OL. Or if you can't keep Webb in the pocket rushing four, then bring the blitzes and try to end the play early. Don't spy him and make it easy on him simply because he has good legs.

In a 3-4 defense, you are better off assigning one of the ILB to be a spy since he's in the center of the formation in front of the QB. If Haslett calls for Fletcher or Riley to spy, then he can only rush one OLB along with the front three. Either Orakpo or Kerrigan will drop back in coverage along with one of the inside linebackers. When spying, it would be better for the Redskins to play a soft zone coverage.

If Webb, Cam Newton, or Michael Vick decides to tuck the football and run, then Fletcher or Riley will be there to stop him. At best, or worst for the defense, the scrambling quarterback will only gain 1 or two yards at the most. They key would be for whichever inside linebacker to mirror the QB in every direction he goes when he drops back to pass. As mentioned above, Richie Pettibon did this all the time to Randall Cunningham and other QBs from his coaching era that liked to run with the football.

Rightfully, I give Mike Shanahan a lot of crap for some consistently awful game management over the last two years. But I thought he did a really good job managing the game at the end to give the Redskins offense a shot to tie it up when they really weren't in position to get that opportunity. The Grossman INT and long return should have ended the game.

Kudos to Mike Shanahan for getting that last opportunity.

Anyone else find it ironic that we honored Richie Petitbon at halftime? He was a guy who was so good at halftime adjustments. Now we have a DC who can't do it to save his life.

Anyone else find it ironic that we honored Richie Petitbon at halftime? He was a guy who was so good at halftime adjustments. Now we have a DC who can't do it to save his life.I think Jim Haslett is really good at halftime adjustments. If you just limited our defensive splits to the second half, we're a lot better in the last two years than whole games.

I think Jim Haslett is really good at halftime adjustments. If you just limited our defensive splits to the second half, we're a lot better in the last two years than whole games.

Really? Doesn't feel like. It always seems like we can't get stops late in the game when it counts.

Really? Doesn't feel like. It always seems like we can't get stops late in the game when it counts.It does still feel like that, but I don't think that's much of a reflection on what happened at halftime.

One thing I would point out here is that one of the reasons the Redskins never get blown out is because if they are trailing by more than a TD at half, the defense typically gets together and puts an end to it. We gave up 20 first half points to the Eagles this year at home and 42 last year. They combined for what, ten points in the second half?

The defense put us out of those games early, but certainly came back to battle in the second half.