CultBrennan59
12-25-2011, 12:59 PM
Someone sell me on Foles. When I've seen him play, I see a QB who pads his stats by throwing short a lot. I also see a QB who throws rainbows when he should be throwing ropes. It is not that I think he is bad - he just seems overrated to me.
He's like a Jay Cutler, great player on a bad team. His OL isn't nearly as good as Andrew Lucks or Matt Barkley's. His receivers aren't nearly as good as Barkleys. He has a rocket arm, NFL size. When you watch him play he looks like he has a few traits of a Brady/Rothlisberger/Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco/Jay Cutler. Some say that he stares down his receivers for a long time. That is some what true. Judge for yourself.
Nick Foles 2010 Highlights - YouTube
Landry44
12-25-2011, 01:09 PM
What I haven't seen on him is a big arm - like I said, he throws rainbows when he should throw ropes. Also, the accuracy part seems overrated because of an abundance of short throws. I do appreciate the pocket presence part. Thanks for that.
He does have a big arm. He also puts the ball down field a lot. It's obvious that you haven't seen many of his games. The guy is a baller.
Lotus
12-25-2011, 01:23 PM
I have watched Foles and I do not see anything like a "big arm." And I am not alone in this observation. In the absence of better arguments, I will continue to consider him overrated.
Landry44
12-25-2011, 01:27 PM
I have watched Foles and I do not see anything like a "big arm." And I am not alone in this observation. In the absence of better arguments, I will continue to consider him overrated.
What games have you watched?
Dirtbag59
12-25-2011, 03:03 PM
Alright new plans.
Plan A:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - BPA - Preferably an ILB, Safety, or an OL
Sign Matt Flynn to contract and try to shoot for RG3, Barkley, or Jones next year.
Plan B:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
Late 1st - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Trade 2nd and 3rd to move up into late first to take Foles.
Plan B-2:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Expect Foles to drop to our spot in the scond.
I've accepted that Kellen Moore will be a slightly rich mans Cult Brennan.
musicmaster45
12-25-2011, 04:48 PM
Plan B. Idk i wanna a qb that can be with us for a while young.
EARTHQUAKE2689
12-25-2011, 07:47 PM
Alright new plans.
Plan A:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - BPA - Preferably an ILB, Safety, or an OL
Sign Matt Flynn to contract and try to shoot for RG3, Barkley, or Jones next year.
Plan B:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
Late 1st - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Trade 2nd and 3rd to move up into late first to take Foles.
Plan B-2:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Expect Foles to drop to our spot in the scond.
I've accepted that Kellen Moore will be a slightly rich mans Cult Brennan.
If we don't go QB in round 1 with RGIII or Luck then I want either:
1st rd: Justin Blackmon
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill
or
1st rd: Morris Claiborne
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill
EARTHQUAKE2689
12-25-2011, 07:49 PM
I still am going to say RGIII is a Redskin in April, along with Kellen Moore.
Lotus
12-25-2011, 09:47 PM
If we don't go QB in round 1 with RGIII or Luck then I want either:
1st rd: Justin Blackmon
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill
or
1st rd: Morris Claiborne
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill
I really like your scenarios but a lot of folks think that Tannehill will not make it past the mid-first round.
Perhaps we could trade back from 7 to 14, picking up an extra second, take Tannehill at 14, and then put a package together to move back into the first and grab a receiver late in the round.
Maybe. Just musing.
EARTHQUAKE2689
12-25-2011, 11:03 PM
I really like your scenarios but a lot of folks think that Tannehill will not make it past the mid-first round.
Perhaps we could trade back from 7 to 14, picking up an extra second, take Tannehill at 14, and then put a package together to move back into the first and grab a receiver late in the round.
Maybe. Just musing.
True and it depends on if Jones and RGIII come out.