North Korea's Kim Jong II Pushing Up Daisies

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Lotus
12-20-2011, 08:24 PM
I am not certain just speculating based on my understanding of (1) China's historical stance on issues affecting the Korean peninsula and (2) my understanding of the military's role in Kim Jong-il and Kim Sung-il's regimes.

China is N. Korea's only ally and benefactor. I don't remember the numbers but the aid NK receives from China is significant. Essentially, without it, N. Korea's economy would suffer a catastrophic collapse making the recent famine seem like boon times. China supports NK simply b/c, without it, a united Korea under the Republic of Korea (South Korea) places a US/Western ally on their Manchurian border. Essentially, China views NK as a necessary buffer state and that's why they pump resources into it. Based on this, I would expect China to have a significant role in determining the political future of NK.

As to the NK military, it has a 1,000,000 million man army with 8,000,000 active reserve. Military Strength of North Korea (http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=North-Korea). Additionally, as with most dicatators, it is the Praetorian Guard that made Jong-il's autocratic rule practicable. Given its size and historical role in the regime, I am simply speculating that it has some serious power players within it who will expect a significant voice in the country's affairs.

In addition to all that, my wife's best friend is a NK double agent who keeps me in the know.

You are right about China's stake in NK. But China does not (yet) want NK as a colony so it often coddles NK to maintain an alliance. So the question becomes, how much destruction/nonsense will China put up with before China significantly intervenes?

724Skinsfan
12-20-2011, 09:47 PM
Watching a pretty interesting documentary on National Geographic Channel. Absolute mind-boggling craziness over there when comes to reverence of their Dear Leader.

JoeRedskin
12-20-2011, 11:20 PM
You are right about China's stake in NK. But China does not (yet) want NK as a colony so it often coddles NK to maintain an alliance. So the question becomes, how much destruction/nonsense will China put up with before China significantly intervenes?

I could see the army supporting an aggressive stance towards SK which might, w/out strong leadership from Jong-un, lead to NK going too far. Possibly even threatening to invade. At that point, it's as you say - What would China do?

As you said, crazy kid with nukes. I just don't see anything good coming of this.

SmootSmack
01-13-2012, 03:53 PM
What the F?


World News - Report: six months in labor camp for N. Koreans who didn't cry at despot's funeral (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/13/10146614-report-six-months-in-labor-camp-for-n-koreans-who-didnt-cry-at-despots-funeral)

Hog1
01-13-2012, 05:28 PM
he South Korea-based Daily NK newspaper said authorities have held “criticism sessions” for those who “transgressed” during organized weeping in the wake of the dictator’s death.

This sounds like something that could catch on at Fedex Field if J. Beck comes back.......

Lotus
01-13-2012, 05:39 PM
What the F?


World News - Report: six months in labor camp for N. Koreans who didn't cry at despot's funeral (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/13/10146614-report-six-months-in-labor-camp-for-n-koreans-who-didnt-cry-at-despots-funeral)

The leader's sending them to six months hard labor will teach them to love the leader. Makes sense. :(

mooby
01-13-2012, 07:02 PM
What the F?


World News - Report: six months in labor camp for N. Koreans who didn't cry at despot's funeral (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/13/10146614-report-six-months-in-labor-camp-for-n-koreans-who-didnt-cry-at-despots-funeral)

That'll learn 'em. :doh:

We could learn a good lesson in appreciating things we take for granted from N. Korea.

NC_Skins
01-14-2012, 10:20 AM
/facepalm

The Goat
01-14-2012, 11:45 PM
That'll learn 'em. :doh:

We could learn a good lesson in appreciating things we take for granted from N. Korea.

I don't take anything from North Korea?

mooby
01-15-2012, 12:02 AM
I don't take anything from North Korea?

Imagine calling your boss at work and telling him to hold your job for 6 months while you go to a "hard labor" camp because you failed to cry at your dictator leader's funeral. Just sayin', even though life in America isn't as great as we all would like it to be right now, it could always be worse.

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