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GTripp0012 12-19-2011, 01:34 PM Has anyone calculated if the Colts beat the Jags if they still would have the first pick assuming that Minnisota or the rams or all three are 2-14. Because that could change the entire draft. If Minnasota gets the number one pick they will draft Luck, I would think. Same thing with the Rams. I would be all for trading to get Bradford, but not to interested in Ponder.With current records, the Colts still get the first pick at 2-14. But it's close enough where if the NFC North or NFC West totally tanks as a division down the stretch, the Colts could miss the first pick at 2-14.
Remaining non-conference games for NFC North, NFC West:
Steelers at 49ers (tonight)
Chargers at Lions
Cardinlas at Bengals
If the Steelers beat the 49ers, the Bengals beat the Cardinals, and the Colts beat the Jags or Texans while the Rams lose out, there's at least a small chance the Rams could pick at first overall. Otherwise, no real chance.
GTripp0012 12-19-2011, 01:34 PM Colts opponents this year have 120 wins.
Vikings opponents this year have 128 wins.
Rams opponents this year have 132 wins.
GTripp0012 12-19-2011, 01:41 PM Shanny is worse than Zorn and the Ole' Ball Coach? yeah dont know bout thatMaybe as bad as?
I think Spurrier is a different animal though. Horrible head coach, put the franchise in a terrible spot. Still, longest losing streak was four games, longest home losing streak was three games, worst home record was 3-5. Shanahan's got all that beat, and against an easier schedule than Spurrier faced. Overall record favors Spurrier by a game. But I don't care so much about that.
Spurrier was unspeakably awful inside the division though. A division that was just as down then as the one Shanahan is competing in now.
I know facts about the job Shanahan has done make people queasy though.
Chico23231 12-19-2011, 01:48 PM Maybe as bad as?
I think Spurrier is a different animal though. Horrible head coach, put the franchise in a terrible spot. Still, longest losing streak was four games, longest home losing streak was three games, worst home record was 3-5. Shanahan's got all that beat, and against an easier schedule than Spurrier faced. Overall record favors Spurrier by a game. But I don't care so much about that.
Spurrier was unspeakably awful inside the division though. A division that was just as down then as the one Shanahan is competing in now.
I know facts about the job Shanahan has done make people queasy though.
I think we bottomed out as a franchise the last year of Zorn---a bottom out from every perspective of an organization. No matter who they brought in, we werent gonna win, for at least several years. Has he been perfect? nope...i think he is moving in the right direction
JoeRedskin 12-19-2011, 01:49 PM In the off chance that either Minn or St. L. get the first pick, I suspect they will have a Luck auction with plenty of suiters offering multiple 1st and 2nd round picks. Each have their "QB of the Future" on the roster but have holes to fill around him.
T.O.Killa 12-19-2011, 01:50 PM Stop, just stop. The Rams will not draft Luck nor trade Bradford. Minnesota will not draft Luck nor trade Ponder. Just stop.
I think your wrong, but either way they will either pick him or deal the pick. The pick will be worth crazy money. If the Colts dont pick first it changes everything.
EARTHQUAKE2689 12-19-2011, 03:00 PM I think your wrong, but either way they will either pick him or deal the pick. The pick will be worth crazy money. If the Colts dont pick first it changes everything.
Trade the pick? Sure, could happen. Draft Luck and trade Bradford or Ponder? Not a chance.
skinsguy 12-19-2011, 03:10 PM Has anyone calculated if the Colts beat the Jags if they still would have the first pick assuming that Minnisota or the rams or all three are 2-14. Because that could change the entire draft. If Minnasota gets the number one pick they will draft Luck, I would think. Same thing with the Rams. I would be all for trading to get Bradford, but not to interested in Ponder.
Absolutely no way the Rams or the Vikings pick Andrew Luck in the draft.
T.O.Killa 12-19-2011, 03:12 PM I am telling right now, Minnesota takes Luck without even a debate. Bradford becomes a 60/40 proposition, in favor of keeping Bradford and getting a truck load of draft picks for years to come, that could solidify the teams Oline and secondary. Wh
skinsguy 12-19-2011, 03:30 PM I am telling right now, Minnesota takes Luck without even a debate. Bradford becomes a 60/40 proposition, in favor of keeping Bradford and getting a truck load of draft picks for years to come, that could solidify the teams Oline and secondary. Wh
So your saying that Minnesota takes Luck, trades Ponder to St. Louis for draft picks? Nope, I do not see that happening at all. First of all, these trades have to benefit both or all parties involved, and I just don't see how trading Ponder to St. Louis benefits St. Louis in the least. They already have their QB, just like Minnesota already has Ponder. And, if Minnesota drafted Luck as a bargaining chip, I think that's very risky on Minnesota's part. It would make more sense just to trade that pick down for more draft picks than holding Andrew Luck hostage.
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