skinsguy
12-22-2011, 11:57 AM
I share your views except that I can't imagine finding a young, franchise QB in free agency.
I think that we'll have a rare opportunity to land one of three top notch prospects in Luck, Barkley, and RGIII and I'm optimistic that the Skins FO will come through for us.
Exactly! I can't even think of one free agent QB right now that I'd truly want for the 'skins (and I'm not going to include Brees because we all know N.O. will sign him.)
SmootSmack
12-22-2011, 12:53 PM
I think he's staying at USC.
That's the rumor. If he does, will be interesting to see how (if at all) this impacts RG III's and Landry Jones' decisions. Rumors have had them all possibly staying
mredskins
12-22-2011, 12:55 PM
I don't think you're crazy at all.
To even consider doing what you suggest, one must first believe that Luck is a rare prospect in the Peyton Manning mold. Like you, I do.
Secondly, one must believe that a QB of that quality can make a huge difference for your team, turning losses into wins and making your team a perennial playoff contender. I do.
So, I would offer as many as three firsts, if necessary.
P.S. If the Skins had Andrew Luck, then D.C. would become a prime destination for top FA's. That's how the Skins could sign the equivalent of a first round WR talent to pair with Luck.
Really you think veteran super stars are going to want to come here because we picked a over hyped rookie. Even in my own job if a new analyst came on board fresh out of Harvard I still be like ok lets see what you can do in the real world before I start kissing the ground he/she walks on.
Some of you guys are putting so much stock in Luck just because. Why is he so great? I have no idea.I only know what the media has feed me; I am not a professional QB scout nor is anyone on here.If you showed me game tapes and career stats of RGIII and Charlie Ward (both Heisman Trophy winners) then told me to pick which would be a NFL star or at least a high draft pick I couldn't give you a educated answer (assuming both were coming out at the same time). So many folks on here myself included thought Cam Newton was going to be a bust, right now I take him over anyone in the 2012 draft because I know he can do it at a high level in the NFL. I have said this before Ricky Williams is a great example, coming out of school you think he was JC but when it came draft time he was not even the first RB off the board. Not to mention his career has been lack luster at best. ALSO it is lot easier to succeeded at being a RB in the NFL then a QB, QB probably has the highest failure rate of all positions.
Honestly the bar is set so high for Luck right now that anything short of a SB victory his first season people will be calling him a bust. The media loves to build you up then tear you down. The best thing for the media would be for Luck to come in with all this praise as the number one and then completly fall on his face come gameday, they would have a field day with that story.
mredskins
12-22-2011, 01:00 PM
That's the rumor. If he does, will be interesting to see how (if at all) this impacts RG III's and Landry Jones' decisions. Rumors have had them all possibly staying
I would think it be a positive if Barkley stays that just moves those guys up one more notch in the draft.
If I was RGIII one the reasons I stay in NCAA would be the #1 pick next year seeing that Luck has it locked up this year.
skinsfaninok
12-22-2011, 01:07 PM
That's the rumor. If he does, will be interesting to see how (if at all) this impacts RG III's and Landry Jones' decisions. Rumors have had them all possibly staying
I've been saying since OCT.. Jones is staying
Paintrain
12-22-2011, 01:19 PM
That's the rumor. If he does, will be interesting to see how (if at all) this impacts RG III's and Landry Jones' decisions. Rumors have had them all possibly staying
Yeah, all of the 'experts' are expecting him to stay.. If RGIII and Jones also stay that makes our picking in the top 10 somewhat irrelevant. That scenario would point to trading down, maybe a couple of times, in order to continue to build depth and would make QB in free agency or trade a reality. That scenario also sets us up for what Kyle said yesterday, building up the other positions around Rex and seeing what he can do with that in 2012. That would cause me to cancel my NFL Sunday Ticket and probably take a year off of football. I can't take another year with the HTM.
SmootSmack
12-22-2011, 01:45 PM
Yeah, all of the 'experts' are expecting him to stay.. If RGIII and Jones also stay that makes our picking in the top 10 somewhat irrelevant. That scenario would point to trading down, maybe a couple of times, in order to continue to build depth and would make QB in free agency or trade a reality. That scenario also sets us up for what Kyle said yesterday, building up the other positions around Rex and seeing what he can do with that in 2012. That would cause me to cancel my NFL Sunday Ticket and probably take a year off of football. I can't take another year with the HTM.
A) When did Kyle Shanahan say anything about Rex Grossman in 2012 and B)...there's still Ryan Tannehill
GTripp0012
12-22-2011, 01:46 PM
That scenario also sets us up for what Kyle said yesterday, building up the other positions around Rex and seeing what he can do with that in 2012.Well, that was the 2011 plan, except the part that us fans couldn't comprehend: when that failed, John Beck would come in and save us all.
Shanaplan right on track.
SFREDSKIN
12-22-2011, 01:46 PM
If all those guys stay in school Foles stock is going to
Rise dramatically.
KI Skins Fan
12-22-2011, 01:47 PM
Really you think veteran super stars are going to want to come here because we picked a over hyped rookie. Even in my own job if a new analyst came on board fresh out of Harvard I still be like ok lets see what you can do in the real world before I start kissing the ground he/she walks on.
Perhaps I should have qualified that statement. I think that they would want to come here to play with Luck after he shows that he has the right stuff in his first year in the NFL and if the Skins pay them enough money.
That's the only way it could work because free agency comes before the draft.