NC_Skins
12-16-2011, 05:26 PM
If you define a bust as a player who starts (is his team's primary starter) for three or fewer seasons, then from 2002-2007 only thirteen players busted (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2002&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=10&league_id=&team_id=&pos=ALL&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all) in the top ten, about two per year. And teams are doing a far better job rating talent at the top of the draft now vs. ten years ago.
The stats of "played longer" is a bit misleading and many factors involved here. A guy selected at #24 isn't going to get the same type of lead way a guy drafted #1 is. You think they'd cut Bradford after guaranteeing him 50 mil? I seriously doubt it. Hell, it took JaMarcus Dummy 3 years to finally get the boot. It's also the same reason 1st rounders last longer in the league than say a 3rd rounder. Alex Smith is still starting and why? Because he was a #1 pick and was paid a ton of money. Had he been a late first round or a 2nd rounder, he'd been cut/shipped out loooong ago.
edit: That may soon change with the salary of top rookies being limited. Even so, a #1 spot is still a heavy investment when it comes to resources and teams are doing to do everything in their power to make it work, even if it means keeping them longer than they want.
SirClintonPortis
12-16-2011, 05:51 PM
The stats of "played longer" is a bit misleading and many factors involved here. A guy selected at #24 isn't going to get the same type of lead way a guy drafted #1 is. You think they'd cut Bradford after guaranteeing him 50 mil? I seriously doubt it. Hell, it took JaMarcus Dummy 3 years to finally get the boot. It's also the same reason 1st rounders last longer in the league than say a 3rd rounder. Alex Smith is still starting and why? Because he was a #1 pick and was paid a ton of money. Had he been a late first round or a 2nd rounder, he'd been cut/shipped out loooong ago.
edit: That may soon change with the salary of top rookies being limited. Even so, a #1 spot is still a heavy investment when it comes to resources and teams are doing to do everything in their power to make it work, even if it means keeping them longer than they want.I don't really agree with his definition of a bust, but w/e.
Even so, quarterbacks always get a longer leash, even if they're late first rounders like JP Losman or Chad Pennington.
Besides, D. McFadden and R. McClain are Raiders in part due to JaMarcus being just that bad.
htownskinfan
12-16-2011, 06:53 PM
Jay Ratliff went off on reporter Calvin Watkin(who i love cause he shows the Cowboys no mercy) in the lockeroom yesterday they had to be physicaly seperated when Watkins asked Ratliff about his relationship with Sam Hurd. I think its safe to say there's a few puckered up at Valley Ranch.
Maybe there's some puck factor going on and I love making fun of the cowboys as much as the next guy,but the boys haven't had 2 players suspended for weed(not counting other years :) )
I'd imagine the puck factor is pretty high in DC also
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skinsfaninok
12-17-2011, 12:13 AM
As The Bookworm Turns: Jets Receiver Plaxico Burress Picks Up Reading After Prison Sentence | ThePostGame (http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201112/nfl-star-becomes-bookworm-after-prison-sentence)
mooby
12-17-2011, 10:27 PM
Boy this'll be the week the Bucs turn it around. :doh:
NC_Skins
12-17-2011, 10:41 PM
Raheem Morris -----door that away------>
NEXT.
TheMalcolmConnection
12-17-2011, 10:49 PM
Oh fantastic. Nothing warms my heart like a Tony Romo lovefest on national TV. :doh:
SFREDSKIN
12-17-2011, 10:52 PM
Bucs are pathetic, they've quit. I'm sure Haynesworth is the motivator :) couldn't happened to a better fat ****!!
skinsfaninok
12-17-2011, 11:07 PM
Romo is a stud, his numbers career wise are legit
GTripp0012
12-18-2011, 01:21 AM
The stats of "played longer" is a bit misleading and many factors involved here. A guy selected at #24 isn't going to get the same type of lead way a guy drafted #1 is. You think they'd cut Bradford after guaranteeing him 50 mil? I seriously doubt it. Hell, it took JaMarcus Dummy 3 years to finally get the boot. It's also the same reason 1st rounders last longer in the league than say a 3rd rounder. Alex Smith is still starting and why? Because he was a #1 pick and was paid a ton of money. Had he been a late first round or a 2nd rounder, he'd been cut/shipped out loooong ago.
edit: That may soon change with the salary of top rookies being limited. Even so, a #1 spot is still a heavy investment when it comes to resources and teams are doing to do everything in their power to make it work, even if it means keeping them longer than they want.I don't think Bradford is in danger of being released after this season, no. But will he make it to four years as a primary starter in the NFL? Not without improvement.
Alex Smith is not still starting because of his draft position. In the first four years of his career, Alex Smith started 30 games. In the last three years, he has started 33 games. His playing time is actually more consistent now than it was when he was the golden boy first overall pick.
The bias towards high picks is real, but I think I was able to set the bar high enough where most busts don't qualify. Sure, setting the bar at 4 years as primary starter means that a guy like Levi Brown is not considered a bust, but you can live with that for objective purposes.
Where using the "years as starter" metric probably ceases to be useful is deeper in the draft where guys don't have a shot to start early in their careers. But limited to first rounders only, I think the snapshot is accurate.