Around the NFL Week 15

Jay Ratliff went off on reporter Calvin Watkin(who i love cause he shows the Cowboys no mercy) in the lockeroom yesterday they had to be physicaly seperated when Watkins asked Ratliff about his relationship with Sam Hurd. I think its safe to say there's a few puckered up at Valley Ranch.

Jim Rome said rumor is Sam Hurd had an NFL players client list in the double digits. You might have a problem if you bought a dime bag from Hurd and then he put your name down on a list. Rome said it might be time to "lawyer up". this could be bad

Jim Rome said rumor is Sam Hurd had an NFL players client list in the double digits. You might have a problem if you bought a dime bag from Hurd and then he put your name down on a list. Rome said it might be time to "lawyer up". this could be bad

NFL will do what they can to keep that list quiet. Not sure why the police would need to publicize it and they are not going to arrest people because there name is on a list (At least I do not think they will). However, some outfit will pay Hurd BIG money for his client list. He won't need the money in jail, but I am sure he wants to set up his family while he is away.

Don't count on "falls".

He only fell because Mike Nolan was afraid of him.

And your excuse for the other 22 teams that bypassed him?


If you don't count on "falls", than don't count on top 5 talent panning out either. That works both ways.

This could be like Cansenco only worse. If anyone on our team is on that list I can see them getting cut.

This could be like Cansenco only worse. If anyone on our team is on that list I can see them getting cut.

To think that players aren't using recreational drugs is a bit naive to say the least. They most likely don't care unless they get caught. When you have money, and you enjoy the night life (clubs, hot women) than chances are high that drugs will be around you in some sort of form/fashion.

To think that players aren't using recreational drugs is a bit naive to say the least. They most likely don't care unless they get caught. When you have money, and you enjoy the night life (clubs, hot women) than chances are high that drugs will be around you in some sort of form/fashion.

Yup... we were discussing this in the TW/FD thread last week. I made a point that many players would do harder drugs over marijuana... because the former leaves the body in a day or two (and is harder to catch on the league's drug tests). The Hurd list is just the tip of the ice berg.

And your excuse for the other 22 teams that bypassed him?


If you don't count on "falls", than don't count on top 5 talent panning out either. That works both ways.
Methinks you need to brush up on what a game of chance is about.

Top 5 talent is about as reliable as a coin flip.

Bottom 15 of the first round talent is about as reliable as a die.

Betting on coin flip>betting on die.

Although neither of those probabilies is close to accurate.

If you define a bust as a player who starts (is his team's primary starter) for three or fewer seasons, then from 2002-2007 only thirteen players busted (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2002&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=10&league_id=&team_id=&pos=ALL&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all) in the top ten, about two per year. And teams are doing a far better job rating talent at the top of the draft now vs. ten years ago.

It's significantly lower in the rest of the round, but a lot better than a coin flip until about the third round, when it's pretty much a coin flip whether you get a roster piece or a bust. After that, good orgs typically do better on Day 3 than poor ones, but no one is consistently pulling 50% after that.