Report: Fred Davis, Trent Williams suspended four games

Listening to ESPN980 right now- Chris Russell reporting that the NFL wanted to suspend them both for an entire season, but a settlement was reached with skins/NFLPA that got them only four games. Grey area due to the lockout/grace period.

Lots of conflicting reports about the timing of their 3rd violations.

Ok so this is Davis's 3rd drug test failure. I'm presuming thats over his whole time in the NFL and not him taking 3 tests over the summer and failing all 3.

But I have not heard that TW has had 2 previous drug failures in the NFL so why is it they both get the same punishment? One would think that if it's the typical punishment for a failure to get a 4 game suspension then shouldn't Davis's be more strict? or are they both at #3?

Whats pretty bad is they get out of college and get a job, a job that pays them really good, a job that many of us could only wish we could get, and knowing the rules decide to ignore them and use a banned substance. Now they are gunna be faces with losing money for each game they didn't play in.... do you all think it will stop them or will they take it in stride and use again? I always find it funny how people will be on probation, have jail time hanging over their heads, and they know they can't break the law or can't do something specific or they will have to do the 40+ years and they do it anyway. Why? and if you decide to do it don't boo hoo later about your jail time. You knew what would happen and you didn't care then.

Ok so this is Davis's 3rd drug test failure. I'm presuming thats over his whole time in the NFL and not him taking 3 tests over the summer and failing all 3.

But I have not heard that TW has had 2 previous drug failures in the NFL so why is it they both get the same punishment? One would think that if it's the typical punishment for a failure to get a 4 game suspension then shouldn't Davis's be more strict? or are they both at #3?

Whats pretty bad is they get out of college and get a job, a job that pays them really good, a job that many of us could only wish we could get, and knowing the rules decide to ignore them and use a banned substance. Now they are gunna be faces with losing money for each game they didn't play in.... do you all think it will stop them or will they take it in stride and use again? I always find it funny how people will be on probation, have jail time hanging over their heads, and they know they can't break the law or can't do something specific or they will have to do the 40+ years and they do it anyway. Why? and if you decide to do it don't boo hoo later about your jail time. You knew what would happen and you didn't care then.

They're both at #3. Knuckleheads.

They're both at #3. Knuckleheads.

Wonderful.

At least they get to serve their suspensions during the last quarter of a lost season. But, Fred Davis is in a contract year and is one of our few playmakers. Big decision as to what we do with him.

As for Trent- so disappointing. This is the #4 overall pick, and in a little over a year with the team he's failed 3 drug tests.

This is pretty disastrous. I hope they both get their heads screwed on right.

Ok so this is Davis's 3rd drug test failure. I'm presuming thats over his whole time in the NFL and not him taking 3 tests over the summer and failing all 3.

But I have not heard that TW has had 2 previous drug failures in the NFL so why is it they both get the same punishment? One would think that if it's the typical punishment for a failure to get a 4 game suspension then shouldn't Davis's be more strict? or are they both at #3?

Whats pretty bad is they get out of college and get a job, a job that pays them really good, a job that many of us could only wish we could get, and knowing the rules decide to ignore them and use a banned substance. Now they are gunna be faces with losing money for each game they didn't play in.... do you all think it will stop them or will they take it in stride and use again? I always find it funny how people will be on probation, have jail time hanging over their heads, and they know they can't break the law or can't do something specific or they will have to do the 40+ years and they do it anyway. Why? and if you decide to do it don't boo hoo later about your jail time. You knew what would happen and you didn't care then.

I think we all have self-destructive tendencies to some extent but the kind that totally jeopardize careers are always a big worry...

At least they get to serve their suspensions during the last quarter of a lost season. But, Fred Davis is in a contract year and is one of our few playmakers. Big decision as to what we do with him.

As for Trent- so disappointing. This is the #4 overall pick, and in a little over a year with the team he's failed 3 drug tests.

This is pretty disastrous. I hope they both get their heads screwed on right.

As for Davis, I wouldn't be opposed to a incentive contract w/ stipulations on failed drug tests. Maybe we can get a friendly contract out of this.

If he doesn't like it..fine..go somewhere else.

As for Davis, I wouldn't be opposed to a incentive contract w/ stipulations on failed drug tests. Maybe we can get a friendly contract out of this.

If he doesn't like it..fine..go somewhere else.

I'd prefer a 1 year "show me" kind of deal. He's not gonna get a huge money deal now, or at least I don't think so. And I certainly wouldn't franchise him. Too much money.

I'd prefer a 1 year "show me" kind of deal. He's not gonna get a huge money deal now, or at least I don't think so. And I certainly wouldn't franchise him. Too much money.

Agreed...I would hope this would wake him up but the first two failed drug tests didn't. Unbelievable, really. Dude lost a ****load of money over some weed.

At least they get to serve their suspensions during the last quarter of a lost season. But, Fred Davis is in a contract year and is one of our few playmakers. Big decision as to what we do with him.

As for Trent- so disappointing. This is the #4 overall pick, and in a little over a year with the team he's failed 3 drug tests.

This is pretty disastrous. I hope they both get their heads screwed on right.

I suspect they'll give him a deal with considerable stipulations in place. But there will be other offers from other teams that may not be as worried about giving him such a contract.

But it'll be really interesting come this offseason when they're negotiating with Davis and with Landry (who, and I don't like to speculate, but I'm pretty confident in this info, is one strike away from 3)