would u take Clarret

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sportscurmudgeon
01-21-2005, 05:41 PM
offiss:

Clarett's style is nothing like Emmitt Smith's. Clarett is a younger version of Ron Dayne. They are about the same size and about the same speed and neither one runs over anybody. When Emmitt was Clarett's age, he could backpedal as fast as Clarett can run.

And you can bet that if you take Clarett in Round 2 that his agent will be demanding first round money because Clarett has lots of legal bills to pay...

Thanks - - I'll pass.

offiss
01-21-2005, 05:59 PM
offiss:

Clarett's style is nothing like Emmitt Smith's. Clarett is a younger version of Ron Dayne. They are about the same size and about the same speed and neither one runs over anybody. When Emmitt was Clarett's age, he could backpedal as fast as Clarett can run.

And you can bet that if you take Clarett in Round 2 that his agent will be demanding first round money because Clarett has lots of legal bills to pay...

Thanks - - I'll pass.


SC you really need to go back and watch film on these player's ain't no way Clarett resembles Dayne, I don't have a clue how you came up with that comparison, and as far as speed Clarett is as fast as Smith or there about's Emmitt was no burner he was a between the tackles runner with a great ability to shift in the hole and break arm tackles just like Clarett, there is no way Clarett resembles Dayne not even close. Do I think Clarett will be as good as Emmitt? No, but I do think he will be very simiular in style.

wolfeskins
01-21-2005, 06:54 PM
i have to agree with sc on this one. clarett is not really that good and he is an idiot. he wasn't blackballed by the ncaa or the nfl. he broke the rules and lost his privilage to play , he could have waited and returned to college at a later date instead he tried to force himself into the nfl. i'm glad he was blocked, that would have opened the door for a downfall of the nfl.the players who enter the nfl " the right way " are young enough. i don't want the nfl to turn into the nba. if you wan't to see a high school basketball game just watch the nba, it's a f-ing joke. lets keep the nfl separate from the ncaa and high school football.i hope nobody drafts him.

bedlamVR
01-22-2005, 08:35 AM
I think if Clarett is still aroud on day two take him in the 4th. He challeneged the collage and NFL rules to try and get into the big time early. I am glad he lost his case but someone was going to do it at some time it is not something to hang him over . We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?

The other reason I want to pick Clarett up or draft for RB is we might be extremely thin here. Rock is unlikely to return, Simon looked like an old stash job on IR but still might not be back and Morton looks to be shown the door after the emergance of Antonio Bates on ST and his contract. That gives us Betts and Portis and given there respective styles and injury records you can rely on neither one all season. We could pick up a buldozer back in FA but i don't see it and Clarett will probably be shunned by the PR of many teams.

Also the FA and trade wires will may be alive by the presence of some very good backs Drougns,(sp?), James, Henry looking for a trade and so on and so on.

BrudLee
01-22-2005, 10:07 AM
I think if Clarett is still aroud on day two take him in the 4th. He challeneged the collage and NFL rules to try and get into the big time early. I am glad he lost his case but someone was going to do it at some time it is not something to hang him over . We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?

The other reason I want to pick Clarett up or draft for RB is we might be extremely thin here. Rock is unlikely to return, Simon looked like an old stash job on IR but still might not be back and Morton looks to be shown the door after the emergance of Antonio Bates on ST and his contract. That gives us Betts and Portis and given there respective styles and injury records you can rely on neither one all season. We could pick up a buldozer back in FA but i don't see it and Clarett will probably be shunned by the PR of many teams.

Also the FA and trade wires will may be alive by the presence of some very good backs Drougns,(sp?), James, Henry looking for a trade and so on and so on.

I hope your point isn't that any of those 1000 yard rushers would be available and anxious to be a backup in Washington.

James is going to be franchised. Though I'm sure he wants some long term security, the $7 milllion-plus he's going to receive will keep him from becoming too despondent.

Henry wants a trade, because although he is being paid like a starter, he wants to showcase his value to make even more. The fact that the money (which we don't really have) isn't enough for him, and the carries (which we don't really have) are what he wants should keep him off the roster.

Droughns is a special case. Though this was a breakout year for him, he's not a young man - next season will be his sixth. In his first 4 seasons, he had a total of 40 carries, working primarily on special teams and as a fullback. He wants "paid", because he'll be 27 at the beginning of next season, and likely won't see another big payday in his career.

Now, if your suggestion is that the "second-tier" backs will be more spread out because those talents are out there, only time will tell. I'm curious as to why an entrenched starter (Portis) with a promising backup (Betts) would need pressing from an undersized malcontent who couldn't get in shape for workouts that could make him a millionaire last year (me... I mean Clarett).

wolfeskins
01-22-2005, 10:45 AM
[QUOTE=bedlamVR] We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?




there is no double standard, clarrett broke rules and was kicked off the team, williams tried to enter after a judge ruled that the nfl was discriminating. williams did not do anything wrong , so he was allowed back in school.

Daseal
01-22-2005, 11:43 AM
Wolfeskins: What about Ohio State giving Clarett money whenever he needed it? Shouldn't they be disqualifyed from recruiting and Bowl game appearances for their actions?

And what do you mean ruining the NBA? You mean how LeBron James in his 2nd year out of High School is absolutely tearing it up? Clarette is a beast of a running back and wanting to come out of school early didn't strip him of that. He wanted to play in the big dance because he HAD NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE. Led his team to the national championship where they bent Miami over their knee because of Clarette. The kid can run, and I truly hope this thread can be revived in 3 years to see where he ends up.

Wolfeskins - Our nation is built on the court systems. If you feel something is wrong, you take it to them and see how they view it. They viewed, in one court, that it was wrong to keep people away from their profession, so both Clarette and Williams signed up. Now they both had to take time off, yet Clarette is the only bad guy? You said earlier you don't want the NFL to be ruined by young players. Make up your mind and stop demonizing Clarette. Do you even know what Clarette did to make you hate him? Do you know why he was blackballed from college? It was very simple - he lied when the police came. No one ever lies to police! So what you're telling me, is since Mike Williams didn't lie to a few cops that he's a better person and deserving of the NFL? Please. If you're going to make an argument, please make it congruent throughout the thread.

bedlamVR
01-22-2005, 12:52 PM
My point about the 1000 yards rushers like Drouhgns etc was that RB poor teams like Miami etc might look there to fill gaps rather than take a chance on Clarett. i don't expect or hope that we pick up a high priced backup for Portis in FA but we do need someone hense what i said about Clarett in the forth round considering he was a top round prospect last year.

Williams has bust written all over him I would rather draft OL or DL and trade down or out of the first round for extra picks I hate WR picks in the first round.

bedlamVR
01-22-2005, 12:59 PM
Williams did break the one rule that should ave prevented him going back to college football in hiring an agent I would take a long hard look at his charactor before we anoint him to sainthood.

BrudLee
01-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Williams did break the one rule that should ave prevented him going back to college football in hiring an agent I would take a long hard look at his charactor before we anoint him to sainthood.
Williams didn't play any college football this year for precisely that reason. He knew he was taking a risk, but chose to take it. He also has showed maturity in dealing with what is surely an unpleasant situation by not particularly badmouthing the NCAA or the NFL. Clarett has done both, though his problems with them are of his own making.

I don't know Mike Williams or Maurice Clarett, but by their actions on and off the field, I know which one I'd rather have in a Redskin uniform.

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