2012 redskins

I agree with the 2 turnover a game thing, but realistically Rex will be back next year. He isn't going to get a starting job anywhere, and what better backup position is there? He could still end up starting if the rookie isn't ready. And the last few weeks (aside the picks) the offense has looked pretty decent and avg about 20+ a game.

I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.

I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.

We'll have alot of questions answered by April. You are right, you can't have 2 TO's a game and expect to win. No doubt about it. Our problem is we don't have another viable option besides sticking a rookie in there. I'm assuming we'll have one qb from the draft. If its Luck/RGIII then we might start them, if not, do you throw them in the mix right out of college? We might need Rex to start next year. He knows the offense. He'll have a better oline, better run game, and more playmakers. The TO's are frustrating, but he does know the offense very well.

You could dump Rex and sign another FA, but options are limited there too.

Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.

Why would it matter? It's not like you can go watch them practice, except the few that are open in training camp.

So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.

So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.

I don't think they ever thought Rex and Beck were the answers. I'm not sure they even thought McNabb was the long-term answer. I think what they thought was they loved, loved, loved Bradford but couldn't move up to #1 for him, and they liked Locker but not enough to do anything more than see if he was there at #10 last year.

So yeah they haven't gotten a QB, but they've worked on other areas of the team. This should (I'll even say will) be the offseason the Redskins get the QB they feel will be the answer for them.

I mean we're not going into year 3 yet, it's more that we're ending year 2

Haven't heard anything

My thing is, if RG3 stays in school and T from USC is gone, Morris Claibourne would be a solid pick at corner. He would be instant upgrade for us at that position. With our first 2 picks Claibourne and Sanchise, we have effectively upgraded both positions and filled needs.

This is why I'm starting to believe we're a snakebitten franchise. I don't know maybe some disgrutled native Americans put a hex on the team due to their disdian for our name. Anyways, just seems that players perform better once they leave D.C which shouldn't be the case. Rogers and A. Carter are just the latest examples, no pro-bowlers this year but the 2 we though we could do without end up making the pro-bowl. Hell, if Rogers would of played for us like the did for the 49ers this year we would of been a playoff bound team last year.

As for J.C, since when did he learn to complete the deep ball? I can't count how many time he missed open recievers deep, however he's made some amazing deep throws to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in Oakland. Eventhough I wasn't a JC fan in his defense we never really built around him. Didn't get him a left tackle, didn't get him a solid core of recievers, all he had was a running back and a TE, which would rationalize why he turned into Captain checkdown when he played for us.

carter was great here until we moved him to OLB (just like he was a great DE in SF before they went 3-4 and tried to move him to OLB). rogers was always good here, he just couldn't catch so people thought he was awful, which just hasn't ever been true. I guess it's the same way people think hall is great because he catches a pick for every 20 deep balls he gives up.

I don't think they ever thought Rex and Beck were the answers. I'm not sure they even thought McNabb was the long-term answer. I think what they thought was they loved, loved, loved Bradford but couldn't move up to #1 for him, and they liked Locker but not enough to do anything more than see if he was there at #10 last year.

So yeah they haven't gotten a QB, but they've worked on other areas of the team. This should (I'll even say will) be the offseason the Redskins get the QB they feel will be the answer for them.

I mean we're not going into year 3 yet, it's more that we're ending year 2

Thats a good summary of the QB odyssey so far imo. It is a bummer that after year 2 Shanahan and Allen still havent drafted/added their idea of a franchise QB yet. The logic is we wont really be ready to compete for a Superbowl until year 2 or 3 of a young QBs career so I think everyone is itching to get the clock rolling here.

But im glad they didnt draft a QB just to draft a one. I thought gabbert being available to us was a bounce of good luck and I would have drafted him but, now with just one season of hindsight, im glad i dont make the decisions. Shoot, I wanted to take Clausen the year before that.

Unfortunately, I feel like they have to pull the trigger this offseason. By year 4 i think shanahan needs a 10 plus win season. Im not sure Mike Shanahan can walk into year 3 of his contract without having hitched his wagon to a young potential franchise QB. I understand and appreciate his patience to get this key decision right, and that he only gets one real shot at it but at some point you gotta fire your weapon and put your fate and that of the skins in the hands of a young wide-eyed know nothing 22 year old.

Matt Flynn may very well be the best QB entering free agency after the season. I see a big upside with his game, but I also see a bit of a downside with his game also. I think he could be a decent starter in the NFL though. As long as he's better than Grossman or Beck, I don't care about his downside. But I think depending on how much Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan want to give up for a young QB in the draft(RG3/Luck), the Redskins could go the free agency route and attain a passer.

I agree that the key is upgrading the QB position. We should not just sit and wait on a "franchise" QB, but rather we should be looking to get better there. I would much prefer winning 8 or 9 games next season than a repeat of what has happened this year. Even if we are able to draft RGIII, we don't really know if he is a "franchise" player. Redskins desparately need to improve OB play for the team to improve. I say try a different FA QB. Ditch Beck, sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or somebody similar and let him compete with Grossman for the starting job. Groom RGIII if we can get him in the draft.

I agree that the key is upgrading the QB position. We should not just sit and wait on a "franchise" QB, but rather we should be looking to get better there. I would much prefer winning 8 or 9 games next season than a repeat of what has happened this year. Even if we are able to draft RGIII, we don't really know if he is a "franchise" player. Redskins desparately need to improve OB play for the team to improve. I say try a different FA QB. Ditch Beck, sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or somebody similar and let him compete with Grossman for the starting job. Groom RGIII if we can get him in the draft.

By the way, Redskins owe Beck $1,000,000 for next season, but I contend that the team should eat the money and send him packing. They found out he can't play, so I see no reason to keep him. Treat him just like Torain; we owed him just under $600,000 for 2012, but sent him packing anyway. I would characterize both releases as good moves.