2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

Gabbert was a dinker and dunker in college, and a dinker and dunker in the NFL. Accuracy issues

Also a f'ing pansy based on the games I've seen. His game seems to be about avoiding hits more than anything at this point.

@ diehard

Have u seen cam play this season? Big time deep ball accuracy, obviously runs the ball better than any QB other than Vick and has way better accuracy than most thought. He'll be around for a LONG time

I wouldn't go that far. Too soon to be making statements like this.

Cam Newton is a Freak of nature, Luck is the only QB I'd take over Cam in this draft

Thing is, Cam is already taken if I recall correctly. Maybe we can trade Rex, Beck and a conditional 7th rounder for Cam? :)

@ diehard

Have u seen cam play this season? Big time deep ball accuracy, obviously runs the ball better than any QB other than Vick and has way better accuracy than most thought. He'll be around for a LONG time

Yes but does he know all the words to the Oscar Meyer song?

I'm sure you've heard of Cam Newton and Andy Dalton? Luck, Barkley and possibly RGIII could be just as good or better next year.Your making my point for me.
Show me 1 expert that thought Cam or Dalton would be as good as they are now?
Historically, its a 50-50 shot a QB prospect will even pan out.
I think we all start getting ahead of ourselves when we say that are sure: instant starters at a pro-bowl level.

Although I didn't have Gabbert as one of my top QBs there is no question that he was and remains a talented prospect that can make all the throws.
I had questions about him, but despite my questions I think its extremely presumptive to look at Gabbert and have a definitive opinion on him as an NFL QB.

I think its also wrong to look at Gabbert with the Jags and assume that he would be the same QB in our system with our coaching as he is with the Jags.
I think Mike/Kyle's scheme is clearly superior to the Jags.

Gabbert started off in a tough spot.
He's playing before he's ready without a QB mentor to show him the ropes.
He's playing for a disfunctional organization that had a lame duck HC.

I've watched a a few Jags games and the offense seems to make no effort to run anything remotely like what he ran at Mizzou, heck they barely get out of base personell (part of the goes back to the FO they lack weapons) they don't boot/waggle often to take advantage of his speed.
I saw at stat that said they were tops in the league in run attempts on 1st down but with how much they run the ball from base personnel 1st down would be a great down for them to have balance and pass to exploit the going up against run defenses.
I could go on.....

But, its not like Gabbert is without fault.
I think his greatest problem is comfort in the pocket both in response to real pressure and in perceived pressure which prevents him from stepping into his throws and causes happy feet which sometimes causes e.g. a 5 step drop with a needless hitch or shuffle step which causes the ball to come out late instead of a 5 step drop back foot hits ball out on time.
^^But that again speaks to coaching because its a common problem that young QBs have when they don't trust what they see or don't trust their protection or aren't comfortable all of which can be helped through playcalling.

Back on topic.

I asked Dave Razzono this question:
What do you think of Griffin III vs Andrew Luck? Is Russell Wilson a draftable QB?

He ignored the second question but...
Luck size and athletic skill are obvious. Griffin better pure passer, more accurate
@DaveRazzano
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thanx 30.. RG a better passer?

Here's a great scenario for your all.

would you all rather have the 1st overall pick or the 2nd and 3rd overall picks, in this years draft?

2nd and 3rd of course