Grossman, Beck or-ton?

great. id rather not be interested in him... dunno what miami is thinking i like matt moore>orton .. just dont even bother with this guy IMO, sign ur qb in the draft.

great. id rather not be interested in him... dunno what miami is thinking i like matt moore>orton .. just dont even bother with this guy IMO, sign ur qb in the draft.


I doubt we sign him

I'm kinda torn on this. I was in favor of trading for him prior to the season, but this late in the game and with the playoffs out of reach, I don't see the point now.

I agree, orton is really not very good. he's better than beck, but i wouldnt say he's better than grossman in this system now, and i have doubts he'd even represent a MARGINAL upgrade over grossman next year.

I say we stick with Grossman, draft a 1st round QB, draft a later-round QB, and pick up a FA QB next year. keep grossman and the 1st rounder in 2012 and then let the other two compete for a roster spot.

A couple of you have mentioned next year, and that to me is the reason to claim him. First, when does his contract run out? If at the end of this year, that's a big reason not to sign him. If he's under contract for next year, that's our 'vet Qb' pickup for 2012 w/6 games left in 11 to see him in practice.

I think it makes sense if he's under contract next year. He could either serve as a stop gap starter or #2 in 2012.

I agree, orton is really not very good. he's better than beck, but i wouldnt say he's better than grossman in this system now, and i have doubts he'd even represent a MARGINAL upgrade over grossman next year.

I say we stick with Grossman, draft a 1st round QB, draft a later-round QB, and pick up a FA QB next year. keep grossman and the 1st rounder in 2012 and then let the other two compete for a roster spot.

Grossman is a FA and at the very least is gonna shop around, what if he gets a better offer or doesnt want to serve as back up to a rookie?

No one knows how Orton will compare to Grossman in our system. With the season over why not find out now and try to keep the best one for 2012? What if we are unable to get any of the QBs in the draft or FA we really want?

And if we are able to get Orton it just means Beck is gone. Thats it. Maybe if Orton shows a lot of promise he gets a couple starts at the end of the year. But not wanting Orton means that you want Beck and/or you want Grossman to go unchallenged.

A couple of you have mentioned next year, and that to me is the reason to claim him. First, when does his contract run out? If at the end of this year, that's a big reason not to sign him. If he's under contract for next year, that's our 'vet Qb' pickup for 2012 w/6 games left in 11 to see him in practice.

I think it makes sense if he's under contract next year. He could either serve as a stop gap starter or #2 in 2012.

He will be a FA, but thats a positive to me. Grossman is also a FA. If either or both leave and sign with another team we will likely get a compensatory pick for each.

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I agree, orton is really not very good. he's better than beck, but i wouldnt say he's better than grossman in this system now, and i have doubts he'd even represent a MARGINAL upgrade over grossman next year.

I say we stick with Grossman, draft a 1st round QB, draft a later-round QB, and pick up a FA QB next year. keep grossman and the 1st rounder in 2012 and then let the other two compete for a roster spot.

All things being equal Orton is definitely a better QB than Grossman. Better career numbers, better W/L %, and he simply passes the eyeball test over Grossman.

All things being equal Orton is definitely a better QB than Grossman. Better career numbers, better W/L %, and he simply passes the eyeball test over Grossman.

No doubt, Orton took his job lol.. I wanted KO before the season but whats the point now?

No doubt, Orton took his job lol.. I wanted KO before the season but whats the point now?

For this year, it doesn't make much sense. But it makes sense if they feel he can be the guy next year until a rookie is ready. And he's definitely an upgrade over Grossman.