Gmanc711
01-17-2005, 03:12 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/01/17/mmqb.divisional/
Check out the bottom of the Article...
I just want to know, if you guys think this is his year? There can be a max of 6 guys in the hall this year. I think three slots are as good as sealed (Young, Marino, Thomas) Do you guys think Monk can get in this year??
TheMalcolmConnection
01-17-2005, 03:30 PM
"It's legalized theft, a crime, that Art Monk is not in the Hall of Fame. Those voters ought to be absolutely ashamed of themselves.''
-- ESPN football analyst Sean Salisbury
Agreed. Those will also be the same people to vote IN Michael Irvin.
cpayne5
01-17-2005, 04:51 PM
Art Monk was a career leader in numerous categories when he retired. It's absolutely rediculous that he isn't in the hall.
SkinsRock
01-17-2005, 05:07 PM
My comments to Mr. King:
1. So what if other WR's have matched or surpassed his numbers since? He was the first to break that plateau. The game has changed since his playing days. To me that accounts for something.
2. Do all WR's have to be "feared"? No! Doesn't consistency and dependability stand for anything?
3. As for Monk "only" going to the Pro Bowl 3 times and "only" being named All-Pro twice in a 16 year career, Riggins is in the HOF after being named All-Pro and going to the Pro Bowl only ONCE each in a 14 year career!
I totally and completely agree with Salisbury.
kingerock
01-17-2005, 05:09 PM
I usually would say he is sure to miss it, but I've heard from several different places (PTI, around the horn, ESPN, NFL Network, etc...) talking about him and getting in this time, an active campaign for him to make the Hall of Fame. To me it may be enough to get the votes he needs to make it this year. I wouldn't be suprised if he is overlooked though.
SkinsRock
01-17-2005, 05:11 PM
"It's legalized theft, a crime, that Art Monk is not in the Hall of Fame. Those voters ought to be absolutely ashamed of themselves.''
-- ESPN football analyst Sean Salisbury
Agreed. Those will also be the same people to vote IN Michael Irvin.
Not this year....whether Monk gets in or not. I agree the Irvin will probably get in, but I think he'll have to wait a couple years. I'll admit that he was good, but he wasn't that good. Hopefully by then, Art will be there already.
saden1
01-17-2005, 05:48 PM
It can't be denied, he does make some good points.
It can't be denied, he does make some good points.
He does, but shouldn't we judge Monk's accomplishments on his acheivements at the time he retired?
If we're going to take a wait and see approach with players nobody would get in.
celts32
01-17-2005, 09:08 PM
It's a joke he's not in. Monk played in the early 80's when catching 100 balls a year meant something. The fact that average players now are breaking his milestones speaks to the state of the game now not Monks ability. Perhaps Monk would have caught 2000 balls if he played his whole carreer in this era. I thought guys like Peter King are the ones that always preached not to compare eras.
And the Pro Bowl as a knock against him? Pullease!! The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest! Perhaps Monk never made many Pro Bowl appearances becasue he was a quiet reserved gentleman that let his play speak for itself. Pro Bowl votes...what a joke.
Daseal
01-17-2005, 10:12 PM
I must admit - ask most non-skins fans who was a bigger receiver. Monk or Irvin - you know who's name is coming out of their mouth. Not saying I agree, but many people don't hold Monk in the same regard we do as Redskins fans.
He's in our Ring of Fame at least!