SBXVII
11-15-2011, 11:02 AM
You're far too kind with Rex. He totally stared down Gaffney and as usual, didn't see the coverage underneath.
It's ok to say it, Rex blows.
Yes he did stare down Gaffney. How hard is it to teach a QB to not look at the intended WR? maybe go through your progressions backwards, look at him at the beginning to make sure he's gotten off his block then come back to him at the right time.
I remember watching the play develope and immediatly looked to Gaffney myself because I thought oooh slant go to him.... but then it seemed Grossman waited too long to go to the play, Gaffney ran right into the LB and stopped and then instead of getting in front of the LB he shuffles behind him and works his route toward the endzone, and the dreaded pass right into the LB's hands. :doh:
Matty,
I don't think he blows. He was moving the ball up and down the field. He made some really good throws under pressure. There was one out route in particular where he delivered a perfect timing pass before the WR broke and he took a huge hit afterwards.
I think the inconsistency is the killer with him. But we have known that from day 1. down 9-13 on their 10 yard line you just can't throw that INT. It hurt a lot too, because we were just developing some momentum.
Moving the ball up and down the field is useless if you can't score.
He blows, he's thrown almost twice as many INTs as TDs this year, along with losing 2 fumbles. Add in his medicore career numbers and I don't know what else you want to call it.
Wrecks is like the guy that runs around in COD and ends up with a 15-25 k/d. Beck camps in the corner and ends up 1-5.
Pick your poison.
lol pretty much
SBXVII
11-15-2011, 11:08 AM
Still better than Beck, since he can move the ball. Rex will lose more games than win them, but Beck will lose all of them.
Wait.... were you a Beck fan prior to the switch? lol.
SBXVII
11-15-2011, 11:09 AM
Wrecks is like the guy that runs around in COD and ends up with a 15-25 k/d. Beck camps in the corner and ends up 1-5.
Pick your poison.
LOL nice analogy.... but it's supposed to be reversed..... Beck was supposed to be the more mobile QB. lol. but your 100% correct.
NC_Skins
11-15-2011, 11:49 AM
Moving the ball up and down the field is useless if you can't score.
He blows, he's thrown almost twice as many INTs as TDs this year, along with losing 2 fumbles.
Exactly. You don't win games based off the amount of yardage you accumulate. Driving down to the goal line only to give them the ball doesn't do squat for the team.
Exactly. You don't win games based off the amount of yardage you accumulate. Driving down to the goal line only to give them the ball doesn't do squat for the team.
Yup, and I'm tired of the excuses for both Grossman and Beck. Let's just call it like it is, both guys stink. I'm not about to hop on the fire Shanahan wagon yet, but it's a concern that for 2 years now his QB choices have been complete head scratchers.
BigHairedAristocrat
11-15-2011, 12:42 PM
This fire shanahan stuff is nonsense. Firing Shanahan would almost certainly involve Snyder bringing Cerrato back in some capacity. I think both Shanahans need to stay here atleast 3 years before firing is even in the discussion.
sportscurmudgeon
11-15-2011, 12:58 PM
It's probably not just you...but it's not me.
Anyway, here's a question for you. Brady Quinn? Yes? No?
You have to consider the context here:
Brady Quinn or another year of Rex and Beck? Quinn in a heartbeat.
Brady Quinn because the Skins use their first 3 picks in the draft to get OL and do not get a QB until Round 5? Quinn in a minute.
Brady Quinn added to this roster tomorrow because he became a free agent overnight? No...
sportscurmudgeon
11-15-2011, 01:08 PM
I don't know what to say....
It's blatently obvious DS won't be able to please all fans at all times. But I was pretty sure most fans after the Zorn failure pretty much wanted a proven HC (and MS is) and wanted "consistancy". Simply throwing everything away yet again after 2yrs (this offseason) or after 3yrs is not, I would guess to be, "consistancy." We need to keep a coaching staff longer then 2-3 yrs, allow them to get the types of players for their system on the team, and keep a QB in the same scheme longer then 2 yrs. Why is P.Manning, E.Manning, Breese, Brady, etc. etc. so succesfull? because they stayed in the same system for more then 2 yrs.
I agree completely that a consistent and long-term planned approach is the way to build a successful team.
However, I must depart from your commentary when you say that P. Manning, E. Manning, Brees, Brady etc. are successful because they stayed in the same system for more than 2 years.
I truly believe that P. Manning, E. Manning, Brees and Brady - - add Aaron Rodgers to this list too - - are successful first and foremost because of their innate talent level and their commitment to learn the game. They stay in the same system to a large extent because they make "the system they play in" a successful one. [That is a good example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.]
The Washington Redskins have not had a QB with the innate talent level of any one of those 5 QBs mentioned above since Sonny Jurgensen was in his prime. That was about 40 years ago...