Redskins v. Dolphins Gameday Thread

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GusFrerotte
11-13-2011, 06:31 PM
As much as I would like to hope that next year's Skins will be this year's 49ers, there are two reasons why I suspect that this will not be the case. First, the 49ers showed some signs of life at the end of last year with their team playing better as the season wore on. It is the mark of a team headed in the right direction. This year (and I realize that we have a bunch of games left), it is hard to imagine this group being competitive here on our, much less win a game or two. 9 points against the Dolphins? 1 TD in 3 weeks? Pathetic by any measure. Second, while I might agree that we have a nucleus of talent, we do not appear to have any leadership on this team, save for London Fletcher on D. The 49ers have a pretty firey coach -- like him or not, he has his team believing that they can win every week. I don't think Shanahan is a bad coach, but in a league of "what have you done for me lately," one has to think back a long way before you can point to a real accomplishment.

Last year, we struggled to 6-10. This year, it seems like there's a likelihood that we will actually do worse than that (it seems very unlikely that we can tie last season's record). It isn't as though we can look to real stud players that we've lost since Shanahan took over; if anything, folks would likely agree that the roster has made modest improvements (it's at least younger). But there's precious little to show for it. And that does not suggest that we're on the right track here.

Sorry to be doom and gloom. I have been a fan since about 1973 or so. But this franchise is starting to feel cursed. It's been 20 years since the Redskins were relevant on a regular basis. That is a long, long time.

What's crazy is that teams that have been bottom dwellers for years -- the Lions, Bengals, 49ers, Bills -- are stepping up and playing well this season (for the most part). Of those teams, I suspect that the Lions and 49ers will actually be able to sustain it, and perhaps the Bengals as well (unsure about the Bills). It seems like for the Redskins, being good is always just out of reach. It's like Alice in Wonderland: jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today.

Just once -- once -- I would like to see this team go out and just want to kick the crap out of another team. The O-line to play mean and to beg to smash the ball down the throats of an opponent, and for the D to hope that the offense scores quickly so they can go out on the field and pummel someone. I just don't see our guys with that attitude. It has been about 2 decades since we've seen that.

Sad that we're all focused on next year and it is before Thanksgiving.

Not cursed per say, but their really isn't much of an incentive to win if the market in DC is somewhat distorted. Most fans of the Skins in DC land are in fact Feds or Fed contractees with loads of cash to spend still. Look at the Forbes ranking of the best and worst owners. William Clay Ford was the worst because the Lions lost $$$$$$$$ in 2010. Folks in Detroit are hurting, and will not part with $75 a pop for crappy football, but obviously Feds in Dc don't give a shit about money. All Snyder has to do is move the musical chairs around to keeps thing interesting like a Reality TV show. IN short, I don't think there is a concrete plan to rebuild this team, just to keep things constantly changing enough to keep interest in it. In short, I think we do indeed need a new owner that truly is a football fan in here to turn it around.

Hail to the Redskins
11-13-2011, 06:34 PM
Start the chant ...

TRADE DOWN! TRADE DOWN!

There are 4 1st round grade QBs available possibly... (Luck, Barkley, Jones, RGIII)... trade down, grab one, get more picks sp we can grab 3 O-Linemen, some CBs and Safeties while we are at it!

We need more than Luck people! Literally AND figuratively!

He's no "absolute lock." You can't guarantee he's going to be THAT much better than those other 3... (see Andy Dalton, 5th QB picked this year).

SFREDSKIN
11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
[QUOTE=He's no "absolute lock." You can't guarantee he's going to be THAT much better than those other 3... (see Andy Dalton, 5th QB picked this year).[/QUOTE]

Trust me, he is as good as advertised. You would a need a hole in your head if you don't draft him with the 1st pick.

Hail to the Redskins
11-13-2011, 06:40 PM
Trust me, he is as good as advertised. You would a need a hole in your head if you don't draft him with the 1st pick.

Not my point... We aren't going to have the 1st pick, so your point is moot.

I am saying that there is no need to trade UP for him... I don't think we should.

We would be smarter trading down and gathering 5-6 usable parts (like this year) with one or two being QBs and others being O-Linemen, CBs, etc

You are guaranteeing that he's going to be P. Manning and the other 3 guys are all Ryan Leafs?? Can you guarantee that? If you think you can, you have no business trying to take shots at other people on here.

redskins5044
11-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Trust me, he is as good as advertised. You would a need a hole in your head if you don't draft him with the 1st pick.

no doubt that if we had the #1 pick you have to take Luck, but we wont have that pick. So it comes down to which of the Qb's left fit father and sons offense.

SFREDSKIN
11-13-2011, 06:45 PM
no doubt that if we had the #1 pick you have to take Luck, but we wont have that pick. So it comes down to which of the Qb's left fit father and sons offense.

You still move up and draft Barkley who I think is a notch below Luck and the next best QB in the draft (he will come out). Yeah, Griffin is a good QB but in the end Barkley will be the better QB.

SFREDSKIN
11-13-2011, 06:48 PM
You are guaranteeing that he's going to be P. Manning and the other 3 guys are all Ryan Leafs?? Can you guarantee that? If you think you can, you have no business trying to take shots at other people on here.

Yes I'm guaranteeing he will be next Tom Brady, just like I did with Harbaugh and now also Barkley. I'm not taking shots at you.

CultBrennan59
11-13-2011, 06:53 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a very good chance at getting Andrew Luck, without having the first overall pick


I can easily see the 2004 draft all over again.

redskins5044
11-13-2011, 06:56 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a very good chance at getting Andrew Luck, without having the first overall pick


I can easily see the 2004 draft all over again.


yeah if we trade up to get him.

NC_Skins
11-13-2011, 07:12 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a very good chance at getting Andrew Luck, without having the first overall pick


I can easily see the 2004 draft all over again.



Nobody that gets the #1 spot is going to trade it away. It doesn't matter if the Colts do get it, they are going to select Luck and prepare him for the future. I would and they'd be stupid not to. You don't know how Manning's health is going to pan out, and you've seen how important the QB spot is now. Nobody has a shot in hell at trading for Luck. I think there is a better chance in Israel and Iran becoming allies than anybody getting a trade for Luck.

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