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CultBrennan59 11-14-2011, 10:12 PM MS knows what he's got. He's building this thing for the future. I just don't get all of the fans who thought we'd win 11 games this year. I like the optimism, but realistically our talent is not up to par right now.
There's alot to be positive about 2012 though:
Kerrigan
Orakpo
Jenkins
Riley-possibly
Helu
Hankerson
TW
Davis
Let me be the one to burst your bubble...there nothing until we have a QB. Sure the defenders are but they can only stop an offense for so long.
REDSKINS4ever 11-15-2011, 04:40 AM The Redskins definitely great on defense. Last year's draft picks Kerrigan and Jarvis Jenkins, will probably be starters. The defensive line would have gotten more push this season had Jenkins not been lost in preseason.
This coming draft, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan will have to look at the offense through a microscope. Both of them can see through their own two eyes that offensively the Redskins are terrible. Anytime a team scores just 20 points in three games then something is wrong. They need to take a look at Jamaal Brown, and determine if he's going to be a starter or if they're going to draft a RT. With Santana Moss aging but still very productive, the Redskins may have found his replacement with Leonard Hankerson. It's too bad we never saw a tandem of Hankerson and Moss. Terrance Austin may play the slot, but the Redskins need one more playmaker at WR. At last and certainly not least, the Redskins need to draft a young QB. Even if they have to trade up to the top 3 or 4th slot, they need to get a QB. If they can make a deal with Indianapolis with the chance of getting in position to draft 1st overall, then that's what Bruce and Mike need to do.
redsk1 11-15-2011, 10:08 AM Let me be the one to burst your bubble...there nothing until we have a QB. Sure the defenders are but they can only stop an offense for so long.
Sure. I get that.
We'll have a QB through the draft next year. This team had too many holes to fill to select a QB last year. My point is, there are some positive about the way they are building this team.
Of course it's early but in the 2011 draft we hit on:
Jenkins-From reports
Helu- very talented
Hankerson-early but showed some real potential last week
Hey, I didn't have any patience w/ Vinny & Co. I do have patience w/ Allen/Shanahan.
SirClintonPortis 11-15-2011, 11:15 AM NFL.com news: Absolute power corrupts: Holmgren, Shanahan failing to deliver (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8241ed8d/article/absolute-power-corrupts-holmgren-shanahan-failing-to-deliver?module=HP11_cp)
JLC spewing a small bit of garbage, again.
Redskins fans need only think back to Joe Gibbs's comeback to see how abruptly things can end. Yeah, one of our players died and Gibbs was understandably emotionally and mentally spent. Lame.
Both teams passed on what looks like it could be a banner class for rookie quarterbacks to instead address defense high in the 2011 draft.Let's think without hindsight for a moment. How did folks rate Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder and Andy Dalton? Cam Newton was not going to anyone but Carolina. Same with Locker and Tennessee. Even those two had question marks. Besides, if we did trade up, he'd probably be skewering us for neglecting the rest of the team, i.e our crappy Kerrigan-less defense.
And the Browns pretty much would have had to pick Dalton as their new QB if they wanted a QB, unless they traded up.
skinsfaninok 11-15-2011, 11:22 AM Let me be the one to burst your bubble...there nothing until we have a QB. Sure the defenders are but they can only stop an offense for so long.
YEP, This season is a wash for us yet again, Only positive is losing and getting our QB next yr.
skinsfaninok 11-15-2011, 11:25 AM Cofield: Redskins season could get “historically ugly” | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/15/cofield-redskins-season-could-get-historically-ugly/)
DCtoAZ 11-15-2011, 11:26 AM Re-Sign :
Fletcher (continue to develop RILEY)
Cooley (structure out to keep him here 1-3 more years)
Hightower (clearly he's an asset, I love HELU but they both need each other)
Will Montgomery (dude is solid as can be)
Cut:
Daughty, Armstrong, Banks (sorry dude, you have done less than Randle El this year and you can't physically be in a game situation)
Sellers
Free Agency:
Don't get VJ from San Diego .. we don't need those characters
Sign Reggie Wayne .. develop HankTime, Keep Gaffney, Keep Moss, Keep Paul
Draft:
QB - 1st Round .. period end of conversation
All other picks should be used for O-Line, DB's,
BTW someone mentioned Vontaze Burfict out of ASU, I FREAKING LOVE THAT BEAST .. seen him lay the wood for the past few years out here in Tempe but if it means not getting a QB in first round you just can't do it.
Also .. saw this on yahoo today .. Get Peyton Manning .. just do it .. sign him for 3 years & let rookie QB develop under him ( this is the Kellen Moore type project)
When I look at this team and how the season has gone yeah it sucks, 3-1 gave us false hope but the reality is .. sucking this season will help us get our QB next year and this team will be young and not as far away as people think ... we are young & talented at a LOT of positions .. injury plagued season with a turnover machine in Rex and a UFL QB in Beck .. with all that said .. watch us go beat Dallas this weekend .. that's really all I want .. one more weekend to smile until season is over.
SOUL-SKINS 11-15-2011, 11:44 AM Hey did anyone else see on yahoo that a reputable source Is saying the skins will try to trade for Peyton.... I'm on the road can't post a link.....
SmootSmack 11-15-2011, 11:52 AM Hey did anyone else see on yahoo that a reputable source Is saying the skins will try to trade for Peyton.... I'm on the road can't post a link.....
I know it's Schefter, but I think he was just tossing out it there with no real basis behind it
Yahoo! Sports Minute (http://sports.yahoo.com/sportsminute;_ylt=AuWWu2_XlljjjGprUGoaAW05nYcB)
SirClintonPortis 11-15-2011, 12:02 PM Hey did anyone else see on yahoo that a reputable source Is saying the skins will try to trade for Peyton.... I'm on the road can't post a link.....
I guess it is referring to this.
Redskins could pursue Peyton Manning | Pro Football Zone (http://profootballzone.com/nfl/redskins-could-pursue-peyton-manning/)
I wonder if Schefter is just doing a favor for Shanahan. If not, he's ****ing nuts. Sure, Peyton is one of the greatest of all time, but he more than likely can't take much more of a pounding on that neck of his. We need a young QB and young talent around him. We can't cough up multiple first rounders for a short-term QB.
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