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firstdown 03-19-2013, 11:01 AM lol,....you mean other than turning on the TV and watching it myself and listen to what others say about it,no.
Glen Beck was on Fox at one point correct?
and I know this guy is all about "real news",not opinion!
Bill O'Reilly GOES CRAZY In EPIC SEGMENT. This Is BULL BLANK. (O'Reilly vs Colmes) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEenpJ0XCL4)
Wow, you figured out that O"Reilly is an opinion based show. At least he will bring on guest (as your clip shows) that disagree with him so they can debate the topic. All the opinion shows I see on MSNBC are from the left and the guess are just there to agree with the host. I don't have a problem with MSNBC because they don't hide what they are. Its the big three that come on every night at 6:30 and hide behind the name "NEWS" like its always facts to push their agenda.
CRedskinsRule 03-19-2013, 11:50 AM lol,....you mean other than turning on the TV and watching it myself and listen to what others say about it,no.
Glen Beck was on Fox at one point correct?
and I know this guy is all about "real news",not opinion!
Bill O'Reilly GOES CRAZY In EPIC SEGMENT. This Is BULL BLANK. (O'Reilly vs Colmes) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEenpJ0XCL4)
I am pretty confident you can understand a graph, but just in case, FoxNews is still over 50% commentary, which means if you turn it on, more than half the time you will be hearing opinions. Citing one or even two shows doesn't really prove anything. The question I have is, now that a "reputable" survey/research company has highlighted MSNBC's extreme level of opinion orientated programming does that change your opinion of them? Or do you discount what Pew research found, because bashing FoxNews is easier and more fun.
Daseal 03-19-2013, 11:57 AM Also, lets look at the sample size of that graph. The graph looks at each network on 3 days (Mon 11/26, Wed 12/5, Tue 12/18). Far from a definitive source on either side. I'm not familiar with each channel's 'lineup' on those days of the week, but day of the week can greatly skew opinion vs fact.
It doesn't matter which news source it is, I don't consider this poll very reliable. I also am curious what they consider opinion vs fact and how they split the two up. What we should really be concerned about is that 2 out of 3 are more opinion than fact, and the one that has more facts is closer than I'd like.
firstdown 03-19-2013, 12:23 PM Also, lets look at the sample size of that graph. The graph looks at each network on 3 days (Mon 11/26, Wed 12/5, Tue 12/18). Far from a definitive source on either side. I'm not familiar with each channel's 'lineup' on those days of the week, but day of the week can greatly skew opinion vs fact.
It doesn't matter which news source it is, I don't consider this poll very reliable. I also am curious what they consider opinion vs fact and how they split the two up. What we should really be concerned about is that 2 out of 3 are more opinion than fact, and the one that has more facts is closer than I'd like.
Its not too hard to look at their line up and see it mostly opinions.
MSNBC TV Schedule | LocateTV (http://www.locatetv.com/listings/msnbc#20-Mar-2013)
Daseal 03-19-2013, 12:31 PM Its not too hard to look at their line up and see it mostly opinions.
MSNBC TV Schedule | LocateTV (http://www.locatetv.com/listings/msnbc#20-Mar-2013)
I'm not saying anyone did, but it's also easy to cherry pick days to monitor and days not to monitor to influence a poll. I'd like to see a span of 7 consecutive days, at a minimum, to really get a full picture of any news outlet. As I said, I'm really not trying to get into Fox vs MSNBC vs CNN, just that I don't consider 3 days a significant sample size.
Giantone 03-19-2013, 04:14 PM Glen Beck was also on CNN/HLN at one point. He may have actually been on CNN for a longer time period than he was on Fox.
The truth is MSNBC is much more opinionated than anyother news source, including the evil Fox News. Something even more telling is this quote:
Pew Study Finds MSNBC the Most Opinionated Cable News Channel By Far - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/03/18/pew-study-finds-msnbc-the-most-opinionated-cable-news-channel-by-far/)
There are a few reasons why Fox is so popular:
Smoking hot news anchors (http://www.foxnewsgirls.com/)
Extremely high quality journalism and excellent production, compared to competitors
Conservative bias, in a world where ever other media outlet has a liberal bias
ignorance?
CRedskinsRule 03-19-2013, 05:50 PM Also, lets look at the sample size of that graph. The graph looks at each network on 3 days (Mon 11/26, Wed 12/5, Tue 12/18). Far from a definitive source on either side. I'm not familiar with each channel's 'lineup' on those days of the week, but day of the week can greatly skew opinion vs fact.
It doesn't matter which news source it is, I don't consider this poll very reliable. I also am curious what they consider opinion vs fact and how they split the two up. What we should really be concerned about is that 2 out of 3 are more opinion than fact, and the one that has more facts is closer than I'd like.
The full research did take more than just those 3 days to analyze trends and topics, I would imagine pew used a representative sampling for graphing purposes:
To get a sense of the long-term trends in coverage, Pew’s researchers analyzed more than 700 hours of cable news programming consisting of more than 15,000 individual stories from 2007 and 2012.
HailGreen28 03-19-2013, 08:38 PM lol,....you mean other than turning on the TV and watching it myself and listen to what others say about it,no.
Glen Beck was on Fox at one point correct?
and I know this guy is all about "real news",not opinion!
Bill O'Reilly GOES CRAZY In EPIC SEGMENT. This Is BULL BLANK. (O'Reilly vs Colmes) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEenpJ0XCL4)And Al Sharpton is on MSNBC. I suspect we'll say that everything we agree with is less biased than what we disagree with.
'Course in this discussion, I guess we can just categorize your claim as "opinion" rather than "news", and move on. Lol. :)
Chico23231 03-19-2013, 09:13 PM Anybody who agrees with absolutely everything the President says and does like Sharpton, Chris Matthews and Madow is a complete f*(cking moron. Just like Fox pundits (Hannity, etc.) did when Bush was in the office.
People need to start thinking for themselves again. Its really effing sad.
Giantone 03-19-2013, 09:20 PM And Al Sharpton is on MSNBC. I suspect we'll say that everything we agree with is less biased than what we disagree with.
'Course in this discussion, I guess we can just categorize your claim as "opinion" rather than "news", and move on. Lol. :)
...you mean your claim.:rolleyes:
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