Politics and Poniz Schemes

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Lotus
11-04-2011, 09:48 AM
Not if you use one of these.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yoaTaFMUuVY/SbRfCAbq31I/AAAAAAAAAMk/9lRuV8xbezA/s400/guillotine.jpg


I'm all for public executions as well. So much for me being a liberal. :cheeky-sm


I knew that fact by the way, still doesn't change anything. There is no reason why it should cost that much to carry out a death sentence.

The reason why the death penalty is more expensive has little to do with the method of execution. It has to do with the fact that you have to be sure to be right before issuing a death sentence. We can't be putting innocent people to death (although we sometimes still do). This means expensive trials and inevitable appeals. So one study showed that each death penalty court case costs between $3 million and $4 million. The price to keep someone in maximum security prison for life costs about $750,000. So the death penalty is 4 to 5 times more expensive per case.

MTK
11-04-2011, 10:06 AM
Actually the death penalty is a form of economic devastation. Contrary to the beliefs of many, it is much cheaper to give someone a life sentence than it is to put someone to death. So, for example, New Jersey was able to balance its budget in part because it abolished the death penalty. A study done in Florida showed that the state could save $51 million a year by abolishing the death penalty.

Plus it's just barbaric and the ultimate in hypocrisy.

NC_Skins
11-04-2011, 10:10 AM
The reason why the death penalty is more expensive has little to do with the method of execution. It has to do with the fact that you have to be sure to be right before issuing a death sentence. We can't be putting innocent people to death (although we sometimes still do). This means expensive trials and inevitable appeals. So one study showed that each death penalty court case costs between $3 million and $4 million. The price to keep someone in maximum security prison for life costs about $750,000. So the death penalty is 4 to 5 times more expensive per case.

This still wouldn't amount the type of economic devastation that is caused by these jerk offs. I'm willing to take a 3-4 million dollar hit to send a message to anybody out there wanting to bilk billions from people to fund their posh lifestyle. You die.

I agree with making sure a person is innocent, but I'm only for the death penalty in cases where it's clear and overwhelming evidence to support the crime. I'm not talking circumstantial evidence like the Casey Anthony trial.

NC_Skins
11-04-2011, 10:19 AM
Plus it's just barbaric and the ultimate in hypocrisy.


I've stated this before. I don't respond to bullies well. You kill a person because you were trying to rob him, or you plan the murder because you want their money or don't want to be married to them anymore. You die. It's a simple "eye for a eye" retribution. You call it barbaric or hypocrisy, I call it justice and retribution. I believe in protecting my own through whatever means necessary.


Guys that create this type of economic devastation also deserve to die. (add Wall Street bankers in there as well)

CRedskinsRule
11-04-2011, 10:34 AM
I am taking bets on this thread now having more posts on:

choices and odds below:

Ponzi schemes..................... 1000-1
Death Penalty...................... 10-1
Little girls and ponies............ 80-1
Pies................................... 100-1

NC_Skins
11-04-2011, 10:37 AM
Little girl riding pony bridleless, bareback (+rearing, spanish walk, laying down, sit...) - YouTube

JoeRedskin
11-04-2011, 10:48 AM
Ponzi schemes ... bad.
Little girls and ponies ... good.
Pies ... well, duh.

Oh, and NC_Skins is just wrong - as usual.

CRedskinsRule
11-04-2011, 10:53 AM
I think NC_Skins isn't as wrong on this one though. Economic crimes should be able to carry more weight at sentencing because of the number of people affected. But if the death penalty lawsuit costs are cost prohibitive now, imagine a DA trying to push it through against a corporate CEO's legal defense team. Even if legal, states simply would never try it, for fear of bankruptcy. And that's using government lawyers fees LOL!!!

NC_Skins
11-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Ponzi schemes ... bad.
Little girls and ponies ... good.
Pies ... well, duh.

Oh, and NC_Skins is just wrong - as usual.


How so?

Lotus
11-04-2011, 11:31 AM
This still wouldn't amount the type of economic devastation that is caused by these jerk offs. I'm willing to take a 3-4 million dollar hit to send a message to anybody out there wanting to bilk billions from people to fund their posh lifestyle. You die.

I agree with making sure a person is innocent, but I'm only for the death penalty in cases where it's clear and overwhelming evidence to support the crime. I'm not talking circumstantial evidence like the Casey Anthony trial.

ALL potential death penalty cases require clear and overwhelming evidence. In fact, they require these things at several levels including appeals. That is why they are more expensive. With your argument you just implicitly called for more expensive trials.

Also, it is a $3-4million hit PER CASE. Add 'em up and it gets pretty expensive.

Or we can put folks in maximum security for life. Then they can't hurt anyone any more, you and I as taxpayers save money, and the criminal spends the rest of his life fearing the reality of dropping soap in the shower.

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