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Defensewins 01-14-2005, 10:46 AM Some points made here, about Jansen, Bowen, and Arrington being on IR, possibly not counting I believe may be true! Only Active players count, am I not correct?.............
In addition, Rookies are all part of a Rookie pool, part of, but not totally counting toward a hard cap?
No, you are wrong.
Players on injured reserve count against the cap, so do rookies.
The rookie cap is a cap with in the main salary cap. The rookie cap is a just a smart idea the owners came up with to limit what they will pay their rookies. So in negotiations they can tell the rookie and his agent, " Due to the rookie cap this is the most I can pay you period, sorry." It prevents rookie salaries from growing too quickly.
firstdown 01-14-2005, 11:13 AM After all the talk yesterday that start with Washington paying la his 6.5 mil I read a link that he is probably going to drop his grievance for the bonus. If he does for the reason he stated that he only played in four games and did not earn the bonus only shows he is what he says he is. A REDSKINS FOR LIFE AND HE LOVES THIS CITY AND FANS!! Does anyone know the thruth and is this a big factor with the cap room?
Thanks CC for dropping some cap knowledge on us, I don't know what we would do without you!
Right now Wynn stands as our 3rd highest cap hit for 2005 at $4M. Not sure what they'll do with him. They have a lot of options.
- His deadcap is not terrible so they could trade/release him for about a $2M savings on the 2005 cap.
- The bulk of his 2005 cap hit is salary ($3.5M), so he is also a good candidate for restructure.
A $4M cap hit sounds a bit high for Wynn, so I'd be surprised if they just kept him and did nothing. Since I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'm cheering for the restructure. :thumb:
I'm also hoping Wynn will be back, he was finally healthy for the entire season & it showed. He had a very solid season.
joecrisp 01-14-2005, 04:43 PM After all the talk yesterday that start with Washington paying la his 6.5 mil I read a link that he is probably going to drop his grievance for the bonus. If he does for the reason he stated that he only played in four games and did not earn the bonus only shows he is what he says he is. A REDSKINS FOR LIFE AND HE LOVES THIS CITY AND FANS!! Does anyone know the thruth and is this a big factor with the cap room?
I think LaVar is being earnest in his statements about possibly dropping the grievance. Shortly after the grievance was filed last spring, I had the opportunity to talk to LaVar privately about the situation, and the one thing he emphasized more than anything else was that he is going to be a Redskin for a long time, and that no matter what the outcome of the grievance, he intends to be a part of this team's return to greatness. He wanted to reassure the fans that he would be here for many years to come; that the grievance was strictly a business issue, and would not affect the passion he has for being a Redskin. He really seems to have a deep affection and appreciation for the fans, and he seems to understand the significance of this team and its players to the community.
The impression I got from him is that he was sincerely hurt by what he felt at the time was deceptive behavior on the part of the Redskins' FO. Obviously, he's had a lot of time to reflect on what exactly transpired during those "hurried" negotiations a year ago last December, and I think he senses that, at least from the standpoint of his relationship with the fans, it's in his best interest to put the whole episode behind him. I know it sounds absurd to think that a modern professional athlete would ever walk away from a chance to make more money-- even if he hadn't earned it-- but in the brief interactions I've had with him, I've gotten the distinct impression that LaVar really thrives more on the adulation of the fans more than anything else. He treasures that relationship, and I think he realized that continuing to pursue the grievance, despite its shaky premise, might cause irrevocable harm to his marriage with the fans.
Either that, or LaVar's a damn good actor.
As far as cap room goes, the roster bonus would have a huge effect on the 2006 cap, which is slated to be the most difficult year for the Skins cap-wise, with or without that bonus. Dropping that bonus obviously gives the Skins a little more breathing room, but I don't think they'd ever anticipated that bonus would be a part of the cap total, anyway. The Skins held steadfast to the assertion that the bonus never existed, and I'm inclined to believe them. I think the whole issue arose out of a mistake on the part of the Postons, and LaVar was simply caught in the middle. When I last talked to him, he was very loyal to the Postons, and I think his strong feelings about the team and his agents have really caused a conflict in him that I'm sure he'll be happy to put in the past. His pride may never permit him to admit that it was a mistake, but I think his actions will state as much.
Daseal 01-14-2005, 04:54 PM It's LaVar's fault and his agents fault. Stop dragging the Redskins FO and fans down. He's the highest paid linebacker (undeservingly) in the NFL without the 6.5 million. If I remember correctly he wouldn't sign the initial contract because there were three 6's in a row somewhere, or some such bullshit. To me, he read the contract, his agent read the contract, the NFLPA agreed to the contract. They signed. I can't go buy a car and then have a greivance saying they were supposed to give me more cash back, even though they said it the contract doesn't.
joecrisp 01-14-2005, 05:07 PM Like I said, I think it was a legitimate misunderstanding on LaVar's part, and ultimately, the Redskins' front office isn't guilty of any wrongdoing in the matter. I think LaVar feels like he's letting the fans down, and he wants to put this whole thing behind him and go out next year and earn back their love and respect, as well as his paycheck.
CrazyCanuck 01-14-2005, 05:40 PM Thanks for the kind words guys.
As for Arrington's grievance, I've always been confused. I have him down for a $4.5M bonus in 2006. Never been sure if Lavar expects an extra $2M to make it $6M, or a full extra $6M to make it $10M.
Based on all the other Redskins contracts, a $10M roster bonus is definitely out of the ordinary and doesn't make sense.
I have nothing against Lavar. I just hope this thing gets settled so he can get back to the business on the field.
firstdown 01-14-2005, 05:42 PM Like I said, I think it was a legitimate misunderstanding on LaVar's part, and ultimately, the Redskins' front office isn't guilty of any wrongdoing in the matter. I think LaVar feels like he's letting the fans down, and he wants to put this whole thing behind him and go out next year and earn back their love and respect, as well as his paycheck.Do you think his comment about not playing much this year and not earning his bonus is his way out of a sticky situation he never wanted to be in. Thanks for your insight
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