John Abraham

I can't believe nobody has brought this up yet, what do you guys think of Abraham not wanting to play because he doesn't want to ruin his shot at a lucrative free agent deal?

I wonder if he may be ruining his chances with some teams anyway. I'm sure some teams will look the other way no matter what, but could you see Gibbs wanting to bring in a guy like this?? No way.

I could understand it last week since the injury was still fresh and he was worried about getting on it too quick (see LaVar Arrington) but if he's doing it again that's really shitty.

So if he does get hurt...

it has to be, Gibbs more so then alot of coaches is more about character then numbers and physical skills....I think Abraham is damaged goods upstairs and overall, headcase! stay away. We should have made a push for Wally O or Winstrom last year...


the portis trade kind of makes me a little curious, being he was somewhat of a locker room disturbance in Den, but he was only 22-23, so you can chalk up alot to age....but with Bettis, Staley, and a decent back like Amos Zeroue out there...Gibbs must have overlooked alot of Portis's petty stuff. Plus we wanted to ship Chump B.

I brought this up in another thread when someone mentioned abraham...not a skins type of guy.

Abraham was drafted by Parcells and seems to be a Parcells guy. I thought he'd be a good pickup for the Skins, but he strikes me a real me-first guy after sitting out the playoff game. The injury wasn't fresh because he sat out the last three or four games with it, a sprained knee.

Look some guys are warriors and will play regardless, I'd put LaVar in that mode because he was obviously pretty hurt this year. I mean he plays in two games, gets hurt, and then a slip on wet grass put him out for the rest of the year? Abraham is looking out for his career and I don't blame him for that, but to hang his teammates out to dry like that is wrong to me.

Its Abraham's body, career, and money and nobody can decide what to do better that him. Teams, coaches, writers, and fans can talk all they want about playing hurt, for the team, etc. but none of those blowhards are going to pay his rent when he can play anymore. The teams& coaches only care about winning so if the players dont lookout for themselves, nobody will.

I don't have a problem with Abraham's concerns of being injured. But, some things are better off not being said. Just as in Smoot's case. Sure, you're a hot commodity free agent. By all means try to sign the most lucrative contract out there, but don't be so obvious about it while trying to fool the fans on how much of a 'team' player you are.

I hope we don;t go after him I think it wouldbe a waste of money. He is a Parcells guy and was drafted by him, and the Cowboys have a need at DE so I wouldn't be surprised if they go after him.

Last week, I understand. Even though as a football player, you're supposed to go out there , especially in the playoffs. This guy is selfish as hell to me. He has a chance to win a freaking superbowl ring.... but all he wants is the $$$. Hey, he wants what he wants, I wont get mad if thats what he wants. But the Jets are paying him to get his ass out there and help them win and he's not. If he dosent play this week, thats really messed up.