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skinsfan69 10-31-2011, 04:29 PM Injuries in our case is HUGE. We haven't put an emphasis on building depth for 10 years, so when starters go down it is a very big problem. As far as playcalling ability, Kyle was trying to roll out but Beck was missing some receivers that were open, tried some quick 3 step drops to get the ball out of his hands, but he was holding the ball or the receivers were not getting open. Having a whole new left side of the line causes issues all over the offense. We couldn't run, we couldn't pass protect so what else is there? Chan Gailey, SF, and Carolina have bonified playmakers on their team. Whether is Fitzpatrick, Fred Jackson, Steve Johnson on the bills, Frank Gore, Edwards, Vernon Davis, Crabtree on SF or Cam newton, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart and STEVE " FREAKING" SMITH, along with greg olson and Shocky. so before you start calling out WHY other teams are better, they have better players. Those teams have used their draft picks over the last 5-7 years to gain those playmakers, we have not!! Lets not call out the coaching staff, they are dealing with what they have on the roster and are making it better. Kyle ran a very impressive offense in Houston for a few years, so I doubt he forgot how to coach.
Are you serious? SF's offense was pathetic last year. Harbaugh has come in there and given that offense an identity. He's instilled confidence in that offense! What's our identity?? One freakin run play and run some stupid ass reverses and then throw the ball and not protect your passer??? And I'm 100% calling out the coaching staff cause they got shut out by a 31st ranked defense!!!!! As I said, if your offense sucks then fine, but AT LEAST show me that you're trying! Show me some diversity! Buffalo ran the wildcat so why aren't we? Why didn't we keep feeding Hankerson after he made a nice play? Why do we have one run play? Why do they rotate 50 wr's every week? Why don't we keep in extra blockers? I could go on and on. Kyle sucked shit yesterday and he's sucked for pretty much the entire year. No way to sugar coat it. FIRE YOUR KID MIKE. ENOUGH!!!!
Ruhskins 10-31-2011, 04:36 PM Are you serious? SF's offense was pathetic last year. Harbaugh has come in there and given that offense an identity. He's instilled confidence in that offense! What's our identity?? One freakin run play and run some stupid ass reverses and then throw the ball and not protect your passer??? And I'm 100% calling out the coaching staff cause they got shut out by a 31st ranked defense!!!!! As I said, if your offense sucks then fine, but AT LEAST show me that you're trying! Show me some diversity! Buffalo ran the wildcat so why aren't we? Why didn't we keep feeding Hankerson after he made a nice play? Why do we have one run play? Why do they rotate 50 wr's every week? Why don't we keep in extra blockers? I could go on and on. Kyle sucked shit yesterday and he's sucked for pretty much the entire year. No way to sugar coat it. FIRE YOUR KID MIKE. ENOUGH!!!!
Harbaugh kept his QB instead of wasting a 2nd rounder on a washed up QB from a divisional opponent.
GMScud 10-31-2011, 04:44 PM Are you serious? SF's offense was pathetic last year. Harbaugh has come in there and given that offense an identity. He's instilled confidence in that offense! What's our identity?? One freakin run play and run some stupid ass reverses and then throw the ball and not protect your passer??? And I'm 100% calling out the coaching staff cause they got shut out by a 31st ranked defense!!!!! As I said, if your offense sucks then fine, but AT LEAST show me that you're trying! Show me some diversity! Buffalo ran the wildcat so why aren't we? Why didn't we keep feeding Hankerson after he made a nice play? Why do we have one run play? Why do they rotate 50 wr's every week? Why don't we keep in extra blockers? I could go on and on. Kyle sucked shit yesterday and he's sucked for pretty much the entire year. No way to sugar coat it. FIRE YOUR KID MIKE. ENOUGH!!!!
Yeah pretty much. I don't think you fire Kyle right now, but I think Mike needs to reel him in big time. His playcalling is mind boggling.
SmootSmack 10-31-2011, 04:47 PM Are you serious? SF's offense was pathetic last year. Harbaugh has come in there and given that offense an identity. He's instilled confidence in that offense! What's our identity?? One freakin run play and run some stupid ass reverses and then throw the ball and not protect your passer??? And I'm 100% calling out the coaching staff cause they got shut out by a 31st ranked defense!!!!! As I said, if your offense sucks then fine, but AT LEAST show me that you're trying! Show me some diversity! Buffalo ran the wildcat so why aren't we? Why didn't we keep feeding Hankerson after he made a nice play? Why do we have one run play? Why do they rotate 50 wr's every week? Why don't we keep in extra blockers? I could go on and on. Kyle sucked shit yesterday and he's sucked for pretty much the entire year. No way to sugar coat it. FIRE YOUR KID MIKE. ENOUGH!!!!
Who did Buffalo run the wildcat with? Brad Smith and Tyler Thigpen? Two converted QBs that can run? Who do you suppose we run the wildcat with? Grossman, a QB who can't run? Or Banks, a non QB who can run? Heck the Panthers ran the option with Cam Newton? How come we never try that?
Chief X_Phackter 10-31-2011, 04:48 PM Smackdown - unrealistic expectations and the lockout.
I think as fans we all probably wanted to believe that this team would take a big step forward this year. Maybe not big enough to get in the playoffs, surely not big enough to do anything if we made it; but at least a big enough step to look competitive and feel good about what we could accomplish in 2012 after acquiring a few more pieces.
Then came the 3-1 start, and again as fans, naturally a lot of people started "drinking the koolaid" and having visions of taking the division and having a big playoff run...I think I even saw the word Superbowl and Redskins in the same sentence a few times about three weeks ago. :doh:
The big issue to me, is I don't think there is any question that the lockout hurt this team in a bad way. If you look around the league, the teams that are doing well are the teams that did well last year or were starting to put it together towards the end. They had less to work on - more cohesion...Most of the teams that had major personnel moves, scheme changes, and new pieces to plug in are the ones that are struggling. There are a few exceptions, but overall it is what it is. This team needed a full offseason to put it all together and since they didn't get it, they were forced to make the best decisions they could with the players they had, and hope the guys learn on the fly and stay healthy while doing it. Well, good fortune and health lasted about four weeks and that was it. Now you see this team decimated with injuries and the rest of the division getting healthy. This will be a long season if you are expecting to see this team win a lot of games. However, if you are satisfied with seeing progress despite the youth, inexperience and devestating injuries I think you can still look forward to that...
skinsfan69 10-31-2011, 04:52 PM Harbaugh kept his QB instead of wasting a 2nd rounder on a washed up QB from a divisional opponent.
You know what I saw on TV?? Harbaugh went back and looked at every single play that Smith has had over the years and BUILT the offense around his sucessful plays ONLY! He didn't install any of his negative plays. That's coaching! That's being prepared. I don't think SF is going to win a SB with Alex Smith but they've obviously coached him up. Not seeing any of that going on around here.
SmootSmack 10-31-2011, 04:53 PM Harbaugh kept his QB instead of wasting a 2nd rounder on a washed up QB from a divisional opponent.
Remarkable how everyone is lauding Harbaugh for sticking with Smith when last year when someone here mentioned that maybe Smith was getting a bad rap, the general response was "He's garbage. He totally sucks!"
That said, credit Harbaugh for above all else not asking Smith to do too much
skinsfan69 10-31-2011, 04:55 PM Who did Buffalo run the wildcat with? Brad Smith and Tyler Thigpen? Two converted QBs that can run? Who do you suppose we run the wildcat with? Grossman, a QB who can't run? Or Banks, a non QB who can run? Heck the Panthers ran the option with Cam Newton? How come we never try that?
Yes, Banks. Or let Helu do it. Just try something in order to keep some drives alive, get some 1st downs. We can't score points so time to empty out your sorry ass playbook Kyle.
Ruhskins 10-31-2011, 04:56 PM You know what I saw on TV?? Harbaugh went back and looked at every single play that Smith has had over the years and BUILT the offense around his sucessful plays ONLY! He didn't install any of his negative plays. That's coaching! That's being prepared. I don't think SF is going to win a SB with Alex Smith but they've obviously coached him up. Not seeing any of that going on around here.
We seem to have a culture of coaches wanting to fit players into schemes and not trying to develop schemes that will make better use of a player's ability.
Ruhskins 10-31-2011, 05:00 PM Remarkable how everyone is lauding Harbaugh for sticking with Smith when last year when someone here mentioned that maybe Smith was getting a bad rap, the general response was "He's garbage. He totally sucks!"
That said, credit Harbaugh for above all else not asking Smith to do too much
I don't remember me saying anything negative about Alex Smith, and I think I have been the only one pointing out that Harbaugh stuck with him (b/c you know how much everyone hates Jason Campbell). I am sure a lot could still go wrong with the 49ers, but I think Harbaugh could have easily done what Shanahan did and try to find his own QB. I don't think we could have been better off with one more year of Jason Campbell, but given how well the team drafted in the second round this year, I am sure they could have done something better with that 2nd rounder than wasting it on McNabb.
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