Monk vs. Irvin

Just saw where Michael Irving up up for Hall of Fame. I am sure that he will make it. I was just thinking, I dont know all the stats but arent Monk's better? Doesn't Monk have more records (or did until Rice broke them all)? I will be so pissed this August if Irving gets in and not Monk.

Irvin will probably be held out a few years given his prowiss(sp) for cocaine and hookers...... lol

P.S. Irving is the name of the town where the Cowboys play.

The ballot this year is crowded so I don't know if Irvin will get in just yet. But Michael Irvin will get in before Art Monk.

You don't have to like that or agree with that, but I fear it is merely a fact.

monk:
catches yards ypc TD
940 12721 13.5 68

irvin:

750 11904 15.9 65

Unfortunately, I'm afraid you're probably right. Monk should get in long before Irvin. When Monk retired he had all the records, and he was a class guy, unlike what has been mentioned before about Irvin. Irvin gets more attention because of his loud style, (Monk was quite and just did his job). Marino and Young will almost definitely get in on the first ballot (and probably Irvin too). I hate to see that. Monk should really be in and Grimm too!!!

I think Monk will get in this year.....

Don't think Grimm will for awhile...maybe next year if the Steelers when the SB...

No one is campaigning on behalf of Monk, so he will sit on the sideline until there is a weak class for them to lump him with.

I think it's a shame he hasn't been voted in yet, especially last season with the ones who made it ahead of him, but I think until a very active campaign is made on his behalf, he will get overlooked for quite some time.

Wilbon from the Post and PTI fame has said he's pushed for Monk for several years to no success. I think its just a case of Art Monk having a quiet attitude and not being known as a flashy, "big time" WR. He just went out and did his job. You would think setting both the single season and all time catch records would get you somewhere, particularly in a non-West Coast power running offense that Gibbs ran. That and playing for Joe T, Doug Willams, Jay Schrader, and Mark Rypien in his career. Not that I'm bitter or anything....

d151b, I think that character should have a huge say in whether a person is included in the Hall of Fame or not. Michael Irvin's penchant for debauchery was a little extreme in most ways. Most people love the type of debauchery with a little booze and a few loose women. Irvin liked the type of hookers and a little "sniff sniff".

It is not justice that Monk will most likely be differed AGAIN, even though that may be the nature of the beast.