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CRedskinsRule
10-25-2011, 09:54 AM
She dumped me for Slingin' Sammy. Turns out I wasn't SS enough for her...sigh
...

So I was gonna ask if I could change my name to SeeSkinsSidelineShout. Double the SS all the time!

LOL

skinsfaninok
10-25-2011, 10:41 AM
Owens to Redskins highly unlikely to happen - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins (http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2011/10/owens-to-redskins-highly-unlikely-to-happen.html)

SBXVII
10-25-2011, 11:30 AM
SirClintonPortis,

Your just guessing. No different then everyone "thought" Beck would start and light it up proving that Grossman was as bad as everyone says he is and the savior Beck would change everything and this team would be back in the play off hunt.

Yeah.... that didn't happen, especially against probably the worst defense. So although you can make predictions off of old stats... no one really knows what he will do for us. All I was pointing out is that Hankerson is not doing any better and that considering other teams still might double him up that would leave someone else open or T.O. one on one. I'm not saying bring in T.O. cause he will change everything and he will set this team right. Heck I wouldn't even say that about Moss if he was healthy. No one player makes a whole team.

No different then I said Beck would be just as bad because of the WR's and because the coaching staff would not probably use him to the best of his abilities. Would T.O. come in and solve everything putting up a ton of yrds catching? I don't know, and honestly you really don't know. If the team used him for what he can do now, short to intermediate routes as a possession WR, then AA and Gaffney can go long with their speed. Could he start right away? he's been in the league long enough to know the routes. It would be more about terminology. Coaching staff gets him up to speed on 10 to 15 plays he might be helpful especially on 3rd downs just for starters.

People love to mention how he drops balls. Hello, we are not seeing anything different out of AA, Gaffney, Stallworth, Hankerson...etc. etc. So basically all I suggested was the team going out to see how healthy he is, if healthy then think about bringing him in as a replacement for Moss until he gets healthy. Stallworth has a hamstring injury for which he was out last week. Is he healthy? Is AA completely healthy? Hightower is out for the season. If T.O. looked good I'd think about bringing him in to fill Hightower's spot and play WR until Moss is healthy. Depending on how well or bad he did the team can decide what to do with him later. Cut him. Keep him. Whatever.

CRedskinsRule
10-25-2011, 11:40 AM
I was a big supporter of bringing TO in when he left Dallas/Bills on a 1 year basis. But now we have young receivers that we have to get in the mix for playing time. Beck may not be the answer, but TO - at this point - is clearly not. He is old, and I think the fact that no team has interest proves the point that his skills have clearly declined. I would rather go through this year getting our young receivers time on the field, so that whoever we draft will have some targets with experience.

A side note, I think Beck played well for his first start in 4 years. Lets see if he can get going with some time and experience, remember now he will be playing with nearly all the same WR's he had been practicing with. I still expect good, not great, things from him.

MTK
10-25-2011, 11:41 AM
Owens to Redskins highly unlikely to happen - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins (http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2011/10/owens-to-redskins-highly-unlikely-to-happen.html)

I think he hit the nail on the head:


With the caveat that you should never say never, here are a few reasons why that the Redskins will not sign Owens:

--The Redskins are not sending anyone to Owens’ workout today. When asked yesterday if anyone from the organization was going Mike Shanahan said, “Not that I know of.” If the Redskins were sending anyone, Shanahan would know.

--When Owens was a free agent last year Shanahan, who never comments on whether or not the team is pursuing a specific player, made an exception and ruled out signing Owens. And remember that the Redskins were much worse off at receiver a year ago as Roydell Williams had a roster spot the entire year and Joey Galloway had one for a while, too.

--The Redskins drafted three receivers last April and they also have second-year receiver Terrence Austin. It would be the height of insanity for a team that is trying to build for the future to give snaps to and throw passes to a wide receiver who is going to be 38 in December.
Here is what Shanahan said about Niles Paul a couple of weeks ago:
“He’s going to be an excellent football player for a lot of years…He’s a football player. You can see it on special teams and watching him every day in practice. He’s going to get better and better as time goes on. You guys will be talking about him for a while.”

And here is what he said on Monday about Leonard Hankerson:

Hankerson has been making some unbelievable plays in practice. We put him out there to get an opportunity.

It certainly doesn’t seem to me that the Redskins are anxious to bring in an aging high-maintenance diva to play wide receiver.

Hog1
10-25-2011, 11:52 AM
AND the number one reason we won't sign TO is because it's just.........stupid.

SBXVII
10-25-2011, 11:58 AM
I was a big supporter of bringing TO in when he left Dallas/Bills on a 1 year basis. But now we have young receivers that we have to get in the mix for playing time. Beck may not be the answer, but TO - at this point - is clearly not. He is old, and I think the fact that no team has interest proves the point that his skills have clearly declined. I would rather go through this year getting our young receivers time on the field, so that whoever we draft will have some targets with experience.

A side note, I think Beck played well for his first start in 4 years. Lets see if he can get going with some time and experience, remember now he will be playing with nearly all the same WR's he had been practicing with. I still expect good, not great, things from him.

Totally agree with the getting younger. Just pointing out that if they want a WR that should already know the routes (not the terminology though) T.O. might should get a look. Older Vet to support the young guys. Thats what Moss was.

I get this bad feeling I watched the wrong Redskins game last weekend cause I'm totally suprised hearing people thinking Beck did well? He did no better then Grossman and committed the same mistakes. and the best answer to that is .."he did well for not having played in 4 yrs." Come on folks, unless I missed it he has practiced for 4 yrs and he has played in the preseason in the last 4 yrs and played rather well in our preseason games. He was not sitting on the couch at home waiting for a call, I'd definitly feel sorry for him if that was the case and probably feel like others feel that his outing was not too bad.

Lets call it what it is.... fans didn't like Grossman, didn't want Grossman, and found every reason in the book to blame the "teams" performance on him. Every single misque was Grossmans fault. Now that he's out, and the favoured QB (Beck) is in and the performance is exactly the same, fans come up with excuses.
"Oh, he was rusty"
"Oh, he was off balance"
"Oh, it was the WR's fault"
"Oh, the OL caused the fumble for not blocking"
"Oh, the WR's are dropping balls"
"Grossman did bad against bad or injured teams"
etc. etc.

Hello, Beck did just as bad, 1 INT (should have been 2) and 1 fumble. Against probably the worst defense.

Grossman is not the long term answer especially at 31yo. Beck having a similar outing against a bad defense is not the long term answer either at 30yo. So, if you want to start the young guns and see what they got and can do ya might as well throw in Jonathan Crompton at QB who's only 24. Lets see what he's got in order to decide if we definitly have to draft a QB next yr.

Chico23231
10-25-2011, 12:03 PM
Owens to Redskins highly unlikely to happen - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins (http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2011/10/owens-to-redskins-highly-unlikely-to-happen.html)

Gotta agree with this. Unfortunatly at Moss injury, Stallworth's ineffectiveness and Gaffney's inconsistency...this is a perfect time to get the young guys in the line up. This actually could be a positive turning point, to get young guys in and give them a chance to grab and hold on into a starting spot. To even consider TO would be a massive, Vinny-like mistake. Lets give the young guys a chance to develop and see if they can spark a bottom-5-in-the-league offense.

SBXVII
10-25-2011, 12:07 PM
AND the number one reason we won't sign TO is because it's just.........stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Look. I'm not saying he's the answer. Just pointing out that our Vet on the WR team is down. Who do we have as a Vet? tell me your not going with Stallworth. Plus he was out injured with a hammie last week. Is he healthy? Is AA healthy after his hammie? Those injuries can last weeks also especially if they are brought back too soon.

Will the team go out and get T.O.? I doubt it. We'll see a heavy dose of Davis and Paulson, a lot of running, and all the young guns on the field. AA, Paul, Austin, Hankerson, and some other old guy who hasn't done much Stallworth.

MTK
10-25-2011, 12:14 PM
Gotta agree with this. Unfortunatly at Moss injury, Stallworth's ineffectiveness and Gaffney's inconsistency...this is a perfect time to get the young guys in the line up. This actually could be a positive turning point, to get young guys in and give them a chance to grab and hold on into a starting spot. To even consider TO would be a massive, Vinny-like mistake. Lets give the young guys a chance to develop and see if they can spark a bottom-5-in-the-league offense.

Yup, it's the perfect time to get Paul, Austin, and Hankerson involved more.

Paul especially seems ready for a bigger workload.

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