John Beck Era Begins

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SmootSmack
10-20-2011, 09:57 PM
Since before he joined us, I have been a Kyle Shanahan fan. So whichever QB makes his offense looks good, is fine by me.

warriorzpath
10-20-2011, 10:23 PM
The real problem with Grossman is- he thinks he played well in all the games prior to the eagles game. Let's just hope Beck isn't as delusional. It isn't that Grossman played terrible, I just think if it wasn't for the rest of the team performing well- Grossmans performance wasn't good enough to win the game- with the exception of the giants game.

warriorzpath
10-20-2011, 10:29 PM
Grossman just puts the team in bad positions too often with his mistakes. And he doesn't make enough good plays to balance his performance.

mooby
10-20-2011, 10:47 PM
The real problem with Grossman is- he thinks he played well in all the games prior to the eagles game. Let's just hope Beck isn't as delusional. It isn't that Grossman played terrible, I just think if it wasn't for the rest of the team performing well- Grossmans performance wasn't good enough to win the game- with the exception of the giants game.

Mmm. I agree with this. He hasn't had a mistake free game since the Giants game. And he doesn't acknowledge that he needs to work on his game. He doesn't acknowledge that throwing into triple coverage will usually result in an interception. It just sounds like he's comfortable with where he is as a qb, which is unacceptable.

Dirtbag59
10-20-2011, 11:22 PM
Grossman played well against the Giants, and had a great comeback against Arizona. He was respectable against Dallas but that game ending fumble was painful. However his poor performance against a Rams team we should have blown out was the first blatant red flag I saw from him this year. After the Eagles game it was plain as day.

Steadily been playing worse with each passing game. Seriously if you rank his performances it matches our schedule exactly.

1. New York
2. Arizona
3. Dallas
4. St. Louis
5. Philly

This team is looking like it has a 2008-2009 Minnesota Viking level supporting cast around two journeymen QB.

htownskinfan
10-21-2011, 12:14 AM
Look I was all for giving Grossman the nod to start the season out & see what happens. What happened was a glimpse of good Rex then more BAD REX started to pop up it's ugly head. He's not the worst QB in the league & if Rich Bartel was backing up Grossman then this wouldn't be happening. But it's not, it's John Beck the guy we all thought was going to start back in the spring. He deserves a shot & you know what, this aint no 1-4 team that sucks. The Skins' defense hasn't given up more than 21pts all year, with all those turnovers by Rex that has to point to 2 losses. Even last week, when D-Hall picks off Young & we are in the 20. If Rex doesn't throw up that jump ball with 3 DB's there that game would have had a different outcome. Make no mistake this DEFENSE is something special, they are fun to watch. They are balls to the wall and making plays. Beck will add some spark, buy some much needed time in the pocket and "manage" the game. Get back to pounding the rock and let's do this. Get this shit back on track and let Beck get his shot. Also one request I have to make, let Hankerson get some action ?? Austin too .. I was just starting to dig Gaffney but he's grown old on me in the last few weeks. As far as Cooley is concerned, I love him but Davis is creeping up towards a top 5 TE in this league. He is the shit. HTTR

4-2 after this week will sure look and feel good.

Agree with just about everything but the defense is special part.Defense has played good,very good AT TIMES,but a "special" defense doesnt give up 192 yards rushing and over 200 yards passing.Plus letting the eagles run the ball down our throat in the last 2 minutes when we had to stop them does not a special defense make

DynamiteRave
10-21-2011, 12:32 AM
Agree with just about everything but the defense is special part.Defense has played good,very good AT TIMES,but a "special" defense doesnt give up 192 yards rushing and over 200 yards passing.Plus letting the eagles run the ball down our throat in the last 2 minutes when we had to stop them does not a special defense make

Our run defense has never been very good. And considering how little TOP we had in the 1st half, the defense had to have been gassed. I'm not saying that's an excuse for such poor play but just something to consider.

SolidSnake84
10-21-2011, 08:01 AM
I'm hearing that Grossman lost his starting job more beacause of the fact that he could not admit responsibility for his mistakes and turn-overs, and how he kept saying that all of his performances were good prior to the eagles game.

What i've observed of Grossman is that truly he is so close to be great it's maddening, yet he can't admit times where he just made the wrong decision. Also he always has an explanation for each interception, implying that each interception this year was caused by unforseen circumstances.

All jokes aside though, other than the eagles game where he threw four POOR interceptions, i really believe some of them weren't his fault. (tipped passes, blown routes, etc...)

Either way I think we will see Grossman again if this move to Beck doesn't work and I hope that Rex is humbled and ready to lead this team again. He already has the locker room, now he just needs to be a leader mentally.

Coach seemed to imply that Rex would eventually lose his job in the NFL if he could not admit to wrong-doing and show a desire to change his style on the field. He also said he hopes both Rex and Beck are on this team "For a long time" so he obviously has faith in them...

#56fanatic
10-21-2011, 08:45 AM
I'm hearing that Grossman lost his starting job more beacause of the fact that he could not admit responsibility for his mistakes and turn-overs, and how he kept saying that all of his performances were good prior to the eagles game.

What i've observed of Grossman is that truly he is so close to be great it's maddening, yet he can't admit times where he just made the wrong decision. Also he always has an explanation for each interception, implying that each interception this year was caused by unforseen circumstances.

All jokes aside though, other than the eagles game where he threw four POOR interceptions, i really believe some of them weren't his fault. (tipped passes, blown routes, etc...)

Either way I think we will see Grossman again if this move to Beck doesn't work and I hope that Rex is humbled and ready to lead this team again. He already has the locker room, now he just needs to be a leader mentally.

Coach seemed to imply that Rex would eventually lose his job in the NFL if he could not admit to wrong-doing and show a desire to change his style on the field. He also said he hopes both Rex and Beck are on this team "For a long time" so he obviously has faith in them...


I agree with most of what you said, however two of the picks against the Eagles were on Fred Davis. Especially the one in the Redzone where he just stopped instead of crossing the saftey's face.

As far as them being on the team for a while, one of the two may be here next year, but i doubt both will. We will draft a QB and one will be let go (Rex is my guess, he's a FA)

Chico23231
10-21-2011, 08:51 AM
Since before he joined us, I have been a Kyle Shanahan fan. So whichever QB makes his offense looks good, is fine by me.

Kyle has certainly been a tragic figure

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